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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard
    I mean, take this for another hypothesis:
    Butcher and Key both make plenty of runs in the warm-up games. Butcher is rightly afforded his place in The First Test, but the wicket is dicey, Pollock, Ntini and Nel are almost unplayable and Butcher scores 3 and 6. Key then comes in for the Second Test
    If they view Butcher ahead of Key, then on match will not change that - something these selectors are to be applauded for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard
    This summer has suggested otherwise, with him batting somewhere near his proper position.

    Number 3 is closer to opening than any other spot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marc71178
    If they view Butcher ahead of Key, then on match will not change that - something these selectors are to be applauded for.
    You think not?
    I don't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by marc71178
    Number 3 is closer to opening than any other spot.
    Err, yes, I know that.
    That's what I was saying...


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    Key is too inconsistent take him on tour but Butcher should come back in the team in that run of 40 odd test matches he averages 40 odd he's more consistent

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard
    Err, yes, I know that.
    That's what I was saying...
    My mistake, for some reason I read "somewhere" as "nowhere".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard
    The last Ashes showed us Key can play every now and then - it didn't show us that he can play consistently.
    This summer has suggested otherwise, with him batting somewhere near his proper position.
    It is good that he has kept himself in the frame while not by any stretch pushing Butcher out.
    I hope it stays that way for the next while.
    In terms of consistency, what this summer has suggested is that he can consistently be out for under 20, although if he survives the chances he always gives early on (eg when Gayle dropped a sitter off him when he was on 17 at Lord's), he can go on and get some runs. That *is* what the first-chance average theory suggests, isn't it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by badgerhair
    In terms of consistency, what this summer has suggested is that he can consistently be out for under 20, although if he survives the chances he always gives early on (eg when Gayle dropped a sitter off him when he was on 17 at Lord's), he can go on and get some runs. That *is* what the first-chance average theory suggests, isn't it?
    'Tis indeed.
    Key hasn't scored a single chancless half-century in any of his 6 dismissals (remember, 1 of the 7 was a run-out for which he can't really be blamed).
    However, the fact that he scored 204 without giving a chance remains an impressive achievement.
    And the challenges of greater fielding will hopefully await him, and we'll see for certain whether he really can score runs without let-offs.

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