Misbah now averages 35 outside UAE/Pakistan

[TestMatch]

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Outside of UAE and Pakistan, Misbah averages 35 with 3 centuries. These stats do not include games played vs minnows (Bangladesh, Zimbabwe and West Indies). If you add West Indies, his average goes up to 36, as he has 1 away ton vs them.

 

[Blocky]

Meaningless, considering he just beat England in England and was one of the main reasons as a batsman that they got there.

 

[Shri]

Meaningless, considering he just beat England in England and was one of the main reasons as a batsman that they got there.

Just? Beat?

 

[Blocky]

September was 100 days ago, pal.

That's "just" about the time Australia were being butchered in Sri Lanka.

 

[Jono]

So Misbah isn't an all-time great batsman with a complete record? Oh well, not many are.

He's still a good batsman, and one of the best captains in the last 10 years, considering the crap he has to deal with.

 

[Blocky]

So Misbah isn't an all-time great batsman with a complete record? Oh well, not many are.

He's still a good batsman, and one of the best captains in the last 10 years, considering the crap he has to deal with.

Any Pakistan captain that lasts as long as he has, and gets the types of performances out of the team that he has, and has done it while being in his late thirties/early forties deserves a lot of credit and respect. But I do think he's playing his last series.

 

[vic_orthdox]

Where are they next?

 

[vcs]

Does it include his record against India? I remember he batted very well in 2007, on pretty flat tracks it must be said.

 

[Shri]

September was 100 days ago, pal.

That's "just" about the time Australia were being butchered in Sri Lanka.

No, beat? Didn't they draw?

 

[marc71178]

Meaningless, considering he just beat England in England and was one of the main reasons as a batsman that they got there.

You are aware that 2-2 is commonly considered to be a draw right?

Also, it kind of defeats the point you're labouring to try and bag out Steve Smith about 3rd and 4th innings runs when he didn't score a run in either team second innings in the games they won in that series.

 

[marc71178]

No, beat? Didn't they draw?

They did win the 4th Test to be fair. I'm pretty sure that Misbah's 15 runs in the match weren't the key reason for that though...

 

[Blocky]

You are aware that 2-2 is commonly consider d to be a draw right?

Also, it kind of defeats the point you're labouring to try and bag out Steve Smith about 3rd and 4th innings runs when he didn't score a run in either team second innings in the games they won in that series.

No one is claiming Misbah to be an ATG batsman, unlike Smith.

And I was meaning winning matches, not the series, Pakistan beating England in England, in a match was an amazing accomplishment considering pre-series what the odds were.

 

[vic_orthdox]

https://twitter.com/danbrettig/status/814725661914894336

Contemplating his options.

 

[marc71178]

No one is claiming Misbah to be an ATG batsman, unlike Smith.

And I was meaning winning matches, not the series, Pakistan beating England in England, in a match was an amazing accomplishment considering pre-series what the odds were.

So you change what is relevant to suit your argument and attempt to discredit Smith then. Thanks for clearing that up for us.

 

[Blocky]

So you change what is relevant to suit your argument and attempt to discredit Smith then. Thanks for clearing that up for us.

Why are you making a thread about Misbah about Smith? Because I've said in another thread that Smith isn't the best player in the world? And you're claiming I change my argument to suit? No, I just don't follow you from thread to thread to have the same argument repeatedly.

 

[vic_orthdox]

Lets keep it to Misbah in here, thanks.

 

[karan316]

All-round records | Test matches | Cricinfo Statsguru | ESPN Cricinfo

Outside of UAE and Pakistan, Misbah averages 35 with 3 centuries. These stats do not include games played vs minnows (Bangladesh, Zimbabwe and West Indies). If you add West Indies, his average goes up to 36, as he has 1 away ton vs them.

Who Cares? **** the numbers, he is excellent in tests.

Anyways, Misbah is signing a 4-year deal with WWE. He is going to retire soon and focus on his wrestling career.

 

[Compton]

Misbah now averages 35 outside UAE/Pakistan*





*if you ignore his performances in a third of the nations he has played in.

Making points using stats is often strained at the best of times. But making points using some, but not all, of the available information is infuriating.

Steve Smith now averages 33 if you ignore all tests played outside of Wales.

 

[Daemon]

You are aware that 2-2 is commonly considered to be a draw right?

Also, it kind of defeats the point you're labouring to try and bag out Steve Smith about 3rd and 4th innings runs when he didn't score a run in either team second innings in the games they won in that series.

No one is claiming Misbah to be an ATG batsman, unlike Smith.

And I was meaning winning matches, not the series, Pakistan beating England in England, in a match was an amazing accomplishment considering pre-series what the odds were.

So you change what is relevant to suit your argument and attempt to discredit Smith then. Thanks for clearing that up for us.

If this thread descends into **** it wasn't blocky's fault imo. He meant matches and even if he didn't it was probably an honest slip up. Bringing up Smith for no reason is a bit dire as well.

 

[TestMatch]

*if you ignore his performances in a third of the nations he has played in.

No, he still averages in the 30s when Zimbabwe, Bangladesh and West Indies are included.

But making points using some, but not all, of the available information is infuriating.

You cannot make a point about a batsman's stats outside of the UAE if you include the batsman's stats in the UAE.

You cannot make a point about a batsman's stats vs non minnows if you include the batsman's stats vs minnows.