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    Shane Watson

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    2003/04 Pura Cup
    8 matches , 15 innings , 819 runs@58.5 , 3x100 , 3x50 , high score - 157 , 8 catches.
    2 wickets@52

    First Class Carear
    25 matches , 43 innings , 1738 runs@45.73 , 5x100 , 10x50 , hs - 157 , 12 catches.
    51 wickets@26.43 , SR - 43.2 , eco - 3.66 , best - 6/32 , 2x5wi , 1x10wm.

    His batting has just gone to another level this season after the work at the academy during winter , with this recent form its just a matter of time before he's back in Australian colours once more.......the question is which form of the game he should be picked in.

    Now Im of the firm beleif , and have been since I first saw him play , that Watson will make an average ODI player at best , but would be an outstanding test prospect.
    His game is clearly more suited to the longer form , with the bat he is over reliant on boundaries , not the greatest when it comes to working the ball around for 1's & 2's , he needs a bit of time to play himself in at the start of an innings , cant just go out there & swing from ball 1.
    Now that sort of player is never going to acheive a huge amount of success with the bat in ODI's unless they are consistently batting in the first 15 overs (ala Hayden).
    However the patience & ability to kick on with the starts once set are traits of a top flight test batsman.

    With the ball he is not as wayward as his ODI & FC records would suggest , its just that his bowling lacks variety.
    He is quick , but not quick enough to scare them , swings the new ball away from right handers & the old ball into them (this is something Ive noticed seems to come naturally to him , its a huge advantage) & he is capable of bowling a tight line.
    Its just that he is very skiddy (with his flatter trajectory) & tends to be a bit one paced & predictable with the ball , which means when batsman get their eyes in they can whack him over the top & he can go for plenty in quick time , this has already happened a couple of times in his ODI carear.

    He's great in the feild , very good under the helmet at short leg & has one of the strongest arms in the country.

    IMO he's a victim of the generalisation that allrounders are better suited to the shorter form of the game , despite the fact that a glance at his record , or just watching him bat , reveals that test cricket is his go.

    Now that he's bowling again & making runs like there's no tomorrow the temptation must be there to slot him into the test side.
    I see both sides of the coin here , he's young , enthusiastic , the sides getting old & he's making the runs , so lets get him in there now while the team is winning & we've got the positive culture happening.

    But also the viewpoint of , Love , Hussey , Hussey jnr , Hodge , Lehmann are all making the runs at the same rate & have been doing so consistently for years , they deserve the chance more.

    Now I realise that just ATM he isnt back to 100% pace with the ball , so chucking him in at 6 for the tests in SRL would be foolish.
    But long term his potential value to the side as a middle order batsman / 3rd or 4th seamer is massive.
    He would allow us to play 2 spinners & 5 bowlers in all conditions without harming the batting.
    For me he's ahead of Clarke ATM in the que for test selection as he's piling em on at domestic level , his bowling , age & feilding are a bonus.

    What are your thoughts?

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    Re: Shane Watson

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    He's bloody awesome. Is that enough?

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    Re: Re: Shane Watson

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    He's bloody awesome. Is that enough?
    Yes that shall suffice

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    Whack him in the test side. Now. Right now.


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    yeah i think he will be a great test player - i think he will do alright in the shorter version of the game as well, if he gets a run with Symonds and Clarke usually sharing 10 overs (if not a few more)
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    Originally posted by age_master
    yeah i think he will be a great test player - i think he will do alright in the shorter version of the game as well, if he gets a run with Symonds and Clarke usually sharing 10 overs (if not a few more)
    Watson is too good a bowler to bowl 3/4 in a match. He's a 6+ man at least.

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    Originally posted by furious_ged
    Don't forget everybody, he's sexy.
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    Originally posted by furious_ged
    Don't forget everybody, he's sexy.

    Cleo Bachelor of the year runner up or something last year wasn't he.

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    Well age, I was having a bit of a joke but you just scared the crap out of me.

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    the award is a fact (you know it actually happened), not my opinion

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    His dashing good looks aside, he is an all rounder on the improve.....hopefully his bowling willl get to where his batting is ATM...then Australia should give him a go again in the one dayers, as that has been the traditional "apprenticeship" for test hopefuls. Then see his performance, give a go in a few tests, don't expect too much from him, and hopefully he will turn out to be a Neil Harvey or Richie Benaud......

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    Re: Shane Watson

    Originally posted by iamdavid
    But also the viewpoint of , Love , Hussey , Hussey jnr , Hodge , Lehmann are all making the runs at the same rate & have been doing so consistently for years , they deserve the chance more.
    Hussey jnr only came on the scene last year, so it is a bit of a stretch to say that he has been consistent for years.

    But yeah, I agree Watson is a prospect of the future. Maybe not yet, but pretty soon.
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    i didnt rate watson when he was in the australian side because he bowled 2 or 3 overs and batted at eight or nine, he never got a chance to proove himself internationally except for the flash of brilliance against kenya, but its only kenya
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    As david said, that was in ODIs, and me and him agree that he'll make an average ODI player at best.
    Don't judge his Test-match credentials on ODIs.
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    he hasnt played a test yet has he

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