All-time Great XI - Voting system

[kingkallis]

Kk, Can you please provide an option to select both Miller and Davidson in the same team (maybe by dropping Davidson to bowlers)? I'd like both in my All-Time Aussie XI.

Davidson as a bowler 'only' would make it look ugly so it can either be 2 all-rounders or this.

 

[kingkallis]

Sorry but the NZ selection is kind of weird....

You've put Chris Pringle in there... Chris Pringle??????? 30 test wickets at an average of 46.... I think you're thinking of someone else. Dion Nash maybe? Tim Southee, Tony MacGibbon, Frank Cameron.... even Neil bloody Wagner....

Bruce Taylor isn't in the list anywhere. I'd put him as a bowler rather than an allrounder.

Lance Cairns was never an allrounder.

Any NZ middle order list that doesn't include Martin Donnelly is seriously lacking. Dempster is more of an opening option.

Bevan Congdon is better than Geoff Howarth Could even be worth a mention in the allrounder slot though in truth no-one's going to pick him for the top xi.


A bit lacking in West Indian wicket-keepers. The Cricinfo best ofs went all funky with Jackie Hendriks I think in their all-time West Indian side as a much better keeper to spin than either Walcott or Dujon. Derryck Murray another option. Gerry Gomez is a much better allrounder than Dwayne Bravo though with Sobers in there it's all a bit irrelevant anyway.

Help me fix it then. What would be the ideal 30 for the Kiwis?

 

[weldone]

Davidson as a bowler 'only' would make it look ugly so it can either be 2 all-rounders or this.

Ok, don't worry. I'll have Lillee-McGrath-Miller-O'Reilly-Warne in that case. I can live without Davidson.

 

[Coronis]

Ok, don't worry. I'll have Lillee-McGrath-Miller-O'Reilly-Warne in that case. I can live without Davidson.

If you call that living.

 

[weldone]

If you call that living.

 

[Red]

Reckon bowling allrounders should only be listed as "allrounders" if they're likely to bat in the top 7.

Hadlee and Davidson should be bowlers.

 

[kingkallis]

Reckon bowling allrounders should only be listed as "allrounders" if they're likely to bat in the top 7.

Hadlee and Davidson should be bowlers.

Valid point. Will take a look into the teams tonight.

 

[Flametree]

Help me fix it then. What would be the ideal 30 for the Kiwis?

Turner, Dempster Williamson, Crowe M, Donnelly, McCullum*, Cairns C, Hadlee R, Vettori, Bond, Cowie

Richardson, Sutcliffe, Jones A, Fleming, Taylor R, Reid JR, Smith I *, Nash, Taylor B, Boult, Boock

There's my top 22.... the remaining 8 would be from Wright, Congdon, Astle, Coney, Ryder, Watling*, Wadsworth *, Oram, Bracewell J, Collinge, Doull, Motz, Southee depending on how many batsmen wicketkeepers or bowlers you want. Genuine allrounders are Cairns, Reid, Oram... Congdon, Hadlee and Vettori maybe depending on how you set your thresholds.

 

[kingkallis]

Meanwhile, the ODI champs,

Australia: Ricky Ponting, Greg Chappell, Mark Waugh, Micheal Bevan, Micheal Hussey, Matthew Hayden, Damien Martyn, Dean Jones, Micheal Clarke, Darren Lehmann, Steve Waugh, George Bailley, Shane Watson, Andrew Symonds, Simon O'Donell, Adam Gilchrist, Ian Healy, Brad Haddin, Shane Warne, Brett Lee, Glenn McGrath, Nathan Bracken, Mitchell Johnson, Dennis Lillee, Jason Gillespie, Damien Fleming, Craig McDermott
Team Combo: 5 batsman, 1 all rounder, 1 wicket keeper, 4 bowlers

England: Neil Firbrother, Nick Knight, Graeme Hick, Kevin Pietersen, Allan Lamb, Ian Bell, Marcuss Trescothick, Andrew Strauss, Eion Morgan, David Gower, Graham Thorpe, Robin Smith, Andrew Flintoff, Paul Collingwood, Ian Botham, Alec Stewart, Matt Prior, Graeme Swann, John Embury, Stuart Broad, James Anderson, Darren Gough, Bob Willis, Andrew Caddick, Allan Mullally
Team Combo: 5 batsman, 2 all rounders, 1 wicket keeper, 3 bowlers

West Indies: Viv Richards, Brian Lara, Gordon Greenidge, Chris Gayle, Desmond Haynes, Ramnaresh Sarwan, Richie Richardson, Shivnarine Chanderpaul, Marlon Samuels, Keith Arthurton, Clive Lloyd, Carl Hooper, Darren Sammy, Dwayne Bravo, Jeff Dujon, Dinesh Ramdin, Roger Harper, Malcolm Marshall, Curtly Ambrose, Courtney Walsh, Joel Garner, Micheal Holding, Ian Bishop, Jerome Taylor, Marvyn Dillon, Reon King
Team Combo: 6 batsman, 1 all rounder, 1 wicket keeper, 3 bowlers

South Africa: Herschelle Gibbs, Gary Kirsten, Graeme Smith, Hashim Amla, AB de Villiers, Peter Kirsten, Neil McKenzie, Jonty Rhodes, JP Duminy, Boeta Dippenaar, Shaun Pollock, Jacques Kallis, Lance Klusener, Hansie Cronje, Andrew Hall, Q de Kock, Mark Boucher, Makhaya Ntini, Allan Donald, Dale Steyn, Morne Morkel, Andre Nel, Johan Botha, Pat Symcox, Nicky Boje, Fanie de Villiers, Charl Langeveldt
Team Combo: 5 batsman, 2 all rounders, 1 wicket keeper, 3 bowlers

India: Sachin Tendulkar, Saurav Ganguly, Mohammad Azharuddin, Virat Kohli, Virender Sehwag, Gautam Gambhir, Shikhar Dhawan, Rohit Sharma, Suresh Raina, Ajay Jadeja, Rahul Dravid, Yuvraj Singh, Mahendra Singh Dhoni, Kiran More, Kapil Dev, Irfan Pathan, Robin Singh, Ravindra Jadeja, Ashish Nehra, Munaf Patel, Javagal Srinath, Ravi Ashwin, Anil Kumble, Harbhajan Singh, Zaheer Khan, Ajit Agarkar, Venkatesh Prasad, Mohammad Shami
Team Combo: 5 batsman, 2 all rounders, 1 wicket keeper, 3 bowlers

Pakistan: Javed Miandad, Saeed Anwar, Zaheer Abbas, Mohammad Yousuf, Inzamam ul Haq, Younis Khan, Saleem Malik, Misbah ul Haq, Ijaz Ahmed, Mohammad Hafeez, Shahid Afridi, Shoaib Malik, Abdul Razzaq, Mudassar Nazar, Umar Akmal, Moin Khan, Imran Khan, Wasim Akram, Waqar Younis, Shoaib Akhtar, Saqlain Mushtaq, Saeed Ajmal, Aaqib Javed, Umar Gul, Abdul Qadir, Naved ul Hasan
Team Combo: 5 batsman, 2 all rounders, 1 wicket keeper, 3 bowlers

Sri Lanka: Mahela Jayawardene, Aravinda de Silva, Tilakratne Dilshan, Arjuna Ranatunga, Upul Tharanga, Marvan Atapattu, Russel Arnold, Dinesh Chandimal, Sanath Jayasuriya, Angelo Matthews, Upul Chandana, Thissara Parera, Farveez Maharoof, Kumara Sangakkara, Romesh Kaluwitharana, Muttiah Muralitharan, Chaminda Vaas, Nuwan Zoysa, Lasith Malinga, Dilhara Fernando, Ajantha Mendis, Nuwan Kulasekara, Kumara Dharamasena
Team Combo: 5 batsman, 2 all rounders, 1 wicket keeper, 3 bowlers

New Zealand: Stephem Fleming, Jesse Ryder, Kane Williamson, Martin Crowe, Ross Taylor, Martin Guptill, Glenn Turner, Roger Twose, Nathan Astle, Richard Hadlee, Chris Harris, Lance Cairns, Chris Cairns, Jacob Oram, Scott Styris, Craig McMillan, Brendon McCullum, Adam Parore, Daniel Vettori, Kyle Mills, Danny Morrison, Gavin Larsen, Shane Bond, Chris Pringle, Tim Southee, Ewen Chatfield, Martin Snedden
Team Combo: 5 batsman, 2 all rounders, 1 wicket keeper, 3 bowlers

Bangladesh: Mohammad Ashraful, Tamim Iqbal, Raqibul Hasan, Shahriar Nafees, Imrul Kayes, Junaid Siddique, Aftab Ahmed, Anamul Haque, Shakib Al Hasan, Khaled Mahmud, Mahmudullah, Naeem Islam, Mushfiqur Rahim, Khaled Masud, Mohammad Rafique, Rubel Hossain, Syed Rasel, Tapash Baisya, Abdur Razzak, Mashrafe Mortaza, Naeem Islam, Shafiul Islam
Team Combo: 5 batsman, 2 all rounders, 1 wicket keeper, 3 bowlers

Zimbabwe: Andy Flower, Ali Campbell, Grant Flower, Hamilton Masakadza, Murray Goodwin, Dave Houghton, Sean Williams, Craig Wishart, Stuart Carlisle, Guy Whittall, Neil Johnson, Heath Streak, Elton Chigumbura, Andy Blignaut, Travis Friend, Brendon Taylor, Tatenda Taibu, Ray Price, Prosper Utseya, Eddo Brandes, Paul Strang, Gary Brent, Chris Mpofu, Henry Olonga, Douglas Hondo
Team Combo: 5 batsman, 2 all rounder, 1 wicket keeper, 3 bowlers

 

[kingkallis]

Updated Kiwi players for TESTS:

Glenn Turner, Bert Sutcliffe, Stevie Dempster, Mark Richardson, John Wright
Martin Crowe, Stephen Fleming, Geoff Howarth, Martin Donnelly, Andrew Jones, Ross Taylor, JF Reid, Nathan Astle, Kane Williamson, Craig McMillan, Jeremy Coney
Richard Hadlee, John Reid, Chris Cairns, Bevan Congdon, Jacob Oram
Brendon McCullum, Ian Smith, Ken Wadsworth, Adam Parore, BJ Watling
Daniel Vettori, Dion Nash, Danny Morrison, Jack Cowie, Simon Doull, Shane Bond, John Bracewell, Chris Martin, Ewen Chatfield, Trent Boult, Dick Motz, Simon Doull

Team Combo: 2 Openers, 3 Middle order batsman, 2 all rounders, 1 wicket keeper, 3 bowlers

 

[kingkallis]

Guys, any changes for ODI players? If no I will add them to the system.

 

[weldone]

should include Border for ODIs, ahead of Lehmann or Clarke

also Brad Hogg for Fleming imo

 

[kingkallis]

Clarke <> Border
Fleming I liked but yeah Hogg was a brilliant spinner as well. I somehow missed it but I have added him to the squad without removing Fleming.

 

[weldone]

West Indies needs Kallicharran (for Arthurton maybe), and Andy Roberts for Reon King

 

[kingkallis]

Alvin's performance in ODI is not better than Arthurton and Arthur did play against decent set of bowlers as well so I guess I will keep him.

Roberts <> King, done!