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    Sir Don Bradman vs Sir Gary Sobers

    I don't like the "vs" thread that much but they are quite popular here,
    Looking at the Sachin vs Murali thread where a bowler is compared to a batsmen,
    I got a bit inspired to open this thread. a great batsmen vs a great all rounder..

    Who was better? Sobers or Bradman...
    Is this your homework Larry?

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    Bradman,

    Sobers's bowling wasn't really that great.
    And smalishah's avatar is the most classy one by far Jan certainly echoes the sentiments of CW

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    Heard many people say that bradman is an all rounder,.. He bats and he bats... Couldn't agree more

    Ask yourself what's rarer? A batsman averaging almost a 100 after 20 years of cricket or a great batsman who was a handy bowler... There's your answer
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    Quote Originally Posted by OverratedSanity View Post
    Heard many people say that bradman is an all rounder,.. He bats and he bats... Couldn't agree more

    Ask yourself what's rarer? A batsman averaging almost a 100 after 20 years of cricket or a great batsman who was a handy bowler... There's your answer
    Why use Sobers when you have 3 ATG quicks and either Warne or Murali in your ATG team. He would be useless as a bowler.

    Batting wise, there isn't any contest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by smalishah84 View Post
    Bradman,

    Sobers's bowling wasn't really that great.
    C'mon man, we are not comparing Sobers with Imran

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    In bowling average Sobers is closer to (quite close) Ishant Sharma than he is to Imran

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    But I am talking about him as a bowler for any given team. He can be used to tie up an end but I don't think he can be used as a frontline bowler. With Bradman you basically get the effectiveness of 2 batsmen

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    Quote Originally Posted by OverratedSanity View Post
    Heard many people say that bradman is an all rounder,.. He bats and he bats... Couldn't agree more

    Ask yourself what's rarer? A batsman averaging almost a 100 after 20 years of cricket or a great batsman who was a handy bowler... There's your answer
    What you mean? If something is rare, its more in value? Bradman's rare stats make him the best?
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    Quote Originally Posted by smalishah84 View Post
    In bowling average Sobers is closer to (quite close) Ishant Sharma than he is to Imran
    And in terms of batting average, Sobers is closer to Shane Warne than Bradman.
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    Quote Originally Posted by smalishah84 View Post
    But I am talking about him as a bowler for any given team. He can be used to tie up an end but I don't think he can be used as a frontline bowler. With Bradman you basically get the effectiveness of 2 batsmen
    Yeah, but for that, you would also need the ineffective bowlers of that era bowling to him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smalishah84 View Post
    In bowling average Sobers is closer to (quite close) Ishant Sharma than he is to Imran
    And Viv Richards is closer to Chris Martin than he is to Bradman

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    Quote Originally Posted by karan316 View Post
    What you mean? If something is rare, its more in value? Bradman's rare stats make him the best?
    Um, yes? The fact that no one in history averages even 30 runs close to him obviously makes him special. Sobers isn't even unequivocally the best all rounder. There isn't anyone within a million miles of Bradman in his discipline


    Quote Originally Posted by karan316 View Post
    Yeah, but for that, you would also need the ineffective bowlers of that era bowling to him.
    They were probably ineffective because of Bradman. And please stop. This line of argument just goes down a completely illogical route which I'm sure everyone has seen a hundred times before
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    Quote Originally Posted by OverratedSanity View Post
    And Viv Richards is closer to Chris Martin than he is to Bradman
    Actually this was the quote (originally by GF I think) that I had made that remark in relation to. Thank you

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    Quote Originally Posted by smalishah84 View Post
    In bowling average Sobers is closer to (quite close) Ishant Sharma than he is to Imran
    Sobers would be in an atg team as a batsman anyway, and if he isn't then his bowling would probably get him in if he was on level pegging with another great batsman who didn't roll the arm over, or wasn't as great a fielder.

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    Comparing Bradman to anyone is stupid because he's a complete anomaly.
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