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most under-rated cricketer
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gibbsnsmith
State Vice-Captain
Err....yeh..although IMHO, Saqlain is a magnificent bowler,who is pretty darn underrated.
Langeveldt
Soutie
Re: SAQI
Saqi would have no problem getting into any other side bar india...
Lol like the use of "legal"... too true..FRAZ said:
Saqi would have no problem getting into any other side bar india...
Salamuddin
International Debutant
VVS Laxman -- he was averaging in the 20's before Calcutta 2001
, now its in the mid 40's I believe ?
A lot of people don't really talk much about him when it comes to world class batsmen.........
, now its in the mid 40's I believe ?
A lot of people don't really talk much about him when it comes to world class batsmen.........
Mr Mxyzptlk
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Shivnarine Chanderpaul.
Langeveldt
Soutie
Re: Re: Re: SAQI
Yeah, i cant believe he hasnt been a feature for them recently.. Is that a case of internal politics??? Its sad to see a true champion away from the international game
Liam I agree, Chanders is a very very good batsman who has had to live in Laras shadows for all his career... Not as flamboyant or exciting, but very gritty and effective..
marc71178 said:
Yeah, i cant believe he hasnt been a feature for them recently.. Is that a case of internal politics??? Its sad to see a true champion away from the international game
Liam I agree, Chanders is a very very good batsman who has had to live in Laras shadows for all his career... Not as flamboyant or exciting, but very gritty and effective..
Cloete
International Captain
Damien Martyn
his s/r in ODI's is 80 and he averages 43!! In tests he averages about 47 and s/r of 52, sure it's not that quick but it's a test for crying out loud. alot of the time he secures the innings while the ponting's and hayden's score quick runs. but if someone says he doesn't deserve to be in the ODI team, then that's so wrong it isn't funny.
Martyn has a better average than Ponting (42 for punter) and a higher strike rate (77). his average is better than hayden's (41) and he also has a better strike rate (77 for haydos)
so for those of you who say he doesn't score fast enough, i really don't think it's so necessary that he does in tests. And he actually scores faster than most of the aussie team in ODI's.
Yet everyone still seems to always be calling for his head. I've had enough of it once and for all :!(
for the record his strike rate i only 5 behind ponting's in tests.
his s/r in ODI's is 80 and he averages 43!! In tests he averages about 47 and s/r of 52, sure it's not that quick but it's a test for crying out loud. alot of the time he secures the innings while the ponting's and hayden's score quick runs. but if someone says he doesn't deserve to be in the ODI team, then that's so wrong it isn't funny.
Martyn has a better average than Ponting (42 for punter) and a higher strike rate (77). his average is better than hayden's (41) and he also has a better strike rate (77 for haydos)
so for those of you who say he doesn't score fast enough, i really don't think it's so necessary that he does in tests. And he actually scores faster than most of the aussie team in ODI's.
Yet everyone still seems to always be calling for his head. I've had enough of it once and for all :!(
for the record his strike rate i only 5 behind ponting's in tests.
age_master
Hall of Fame Member
Cloete said:
all of this stuff about martyn a sudden....
do you have a crush:P :P :P
Cloete
International Captain
age_master said:
sssshhh.... don't tell anyone
:Pnah i just feel he deserves his spot and you're always bagging him. tell you who i think should also be in line for a test spot, bevan. He's absolutely perfect for test cricket but the selectors have just overlooked him. i really think if they bring him back he'll be good.
age_master
Hall of Fame Member
i gotta admit i thiink Laxman is under rated, he is often placed below his batting partners but the way he batting in Australia atm he can mroe than hold his own
I think I am right , correct me if not ...
I think I am right if I say
under rates are
Batsman: Laxman
Off Spinner : Saqlain Mushtaq , (just check his record and his county and first class performances)
All rounder : Abdul Razzaq and Azhar Mehmood
Fast Bowler : Dominic Cork
Slogger : Romesh Kalu.. something
Wicket keeper : Moin Khan
Slip fielder : Inzi
Captain: Jayasuria
Fielder: Gibbs
Medium Pacer : Kumble
Coach : Richard pybuss
All time Under rated Batsman : Sanjay Manjrekar
All time under rated Bowler : Malcom Marshall ( Imran , Headly, Botham , Lillee , Holding etc got more media attention )
I think I am right if I say
under rates are
Batsman: Laxman
Off Spinner : Saqlain Mushtaq , (just check his record and his county and first class performances)
All rounder : Abdul Razzaq and Azhar Mehmood
Fast Bowler : Dominic Cork
Slogger : Romesh Kalu.. something
Wicket keeper : Moin Khan
Slip fielder : Inzi
Captain: Jayasuria
Fielder: Gibbs
Medium Pacer : Kumble
Coach : Richard pybuss
All time Under rated Batsman : Sanjay Manjrekar
All time under rated Bowler : Malcom Marshall ( Imran , Headly, Botham , Lillee , Holding etc got more media attention )
Richard
Cricket Web Staff Member
For me it is strange that Shoaib Malik has somehow managed to sneak ahead of Saqqie in the pecking-order, but for me he was always overrated, in Tests at any rate. People thought, like they do with Harbhajan, that he could exploit pitches that didn't suit fingerspin, with his doosra. He can't. He's even more dangerous than a normal fingerspinner on a turning wicket but he's not a threat to competant players on good batting pitches.gibbsnsmith said:
But I'd still have him a fixture in my Pakistan Test XI, with the like of Umar Gul and Malik strangely in ahead of him.
Richard
Cricket Web Staff Member
Strange indeed, even stranger that there were still Indians questioning his place in the side in September! He has averaged over 60 since Eden Gardens March 2001.jamesryfler said:
Another benefactor of the flat wickets and popgun attacks but one who doesn't get very much recognition.
Richard
Cricket Web Staff Member
Re: Re: Re: Re: SAQI
No, just a case of over-emphasis on a short period of no-more-than-slightly substandard form, in one form of the game, and also a determination to pick less experianced players. Saqlain might have been around for ages, but he's old by no means.Langeveldt said:
