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    Smith's average takes the biggest hit of any one in the top 50. Nonetheless, you have to admire the man.
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    what did his hundred at perth rate?
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    Must have been pretty close to great. His great innings count should be higher anyway. WAG.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Riggins View Post
    what did his hundred at perth rate?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bagapath View Post
    40 was considered special in the 80s IIRC. only gavaskar, g.chappell, richards, miandad and border averaged above 50. greenidge too had an average of 50 after 60 tests, which is long enough to be considered a full career by any yardstick. it dropped below 46 only in the last couple of series until he finished with a double century and retired as one of the top 5 openers of all time up to that point in history.
    You are correct in 40+ was an excellent average for the 80's. If I remember correctly, only 4 batsmen (Miandad, Border, G Chappel and Clive Lloyd) managed to score 1000 runs at 50+ during the 1980's, Mark Taylor almost made the group (a little short of runs). Its an interesting group, Miandad and Border where 2 of the toughest batsmen ever, all 4 often get overlooked when discussing great batsmen.

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    Imo Chappell is the 2nd best Aussie bat of all time, will be interesting to see where this study ranks the other top aussies (Chappell, Border, Waugh, Ponting).

    Taylor does make that 80's group, with ~1200 runs @ 64. As does Dean Jones.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coronis View Post
    Imo Chappell is the 2nd best Aussie bat of all time, will be interesting to see where this study ranks the other top aussies (Chappell, Border, Waugh, Ponting).
    I think Neil Harvey could end up pretty high too - I reckon his great/significant innings count will be substantial.
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    Interested to see who is ranked higher out if the two great Australian left-handers - Harvey and Border.

    Speaking of left-handers - it looks as though Frank Woolley missed the cut which is a shame.
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    Which other Aussies remain? We've mentioned Bradman (Actually we didn't, but its implied) Chappell, Border, Ponting, Waugh and Harvey and I think Simpson, Clarke, Gilchrist, Hayden. Although some of them like Simpson and Gilchrist must be quite soon if they are actually going to make it at all.

    DoG is such a gun, you should seriously consider taking this work to a publisher.

    How easy is it for you to update current players just out of interest? So with Clarke, Cook and KP playing the 2 Tests since and performing lower than their ranking suggests, would it take much time to move them again at the completion of the series?
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    Do you think current players are likely to drop as they go through the typical has-been period before retirement, or is it more of a PEWS-ian "can only add to what they've achieved already" sort of system?
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    'The Top 100 Test Batsman' would make a nice addition to cricket literature.

    Including a brief history of each player, and the full scorecard of some of the greater 'Great Innings' would make it even better IMO.

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    Thanks, guys.

    How would I begin the process of finding a publisher?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Days of Grace View Post
    Thanks, guys.

    How would I begin the process of finding a publisher?
    pm me with an email address and I'll send you a few contacts

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    Two more great opening batsmen who were still giving outstanding service to their countries into their 40s.



    46. Graham Gooch (England) (1975-1995)



    Career Average: 42.58
    Adjusted career average: 43.23
    Adjusted away average: 39.75
    Adjusted top-opposition average: 43.04
    Top Tier centuries: 9 (rank 3=)
    Second tier centuries: 2
    Third tier centuries: 6
    Significant innings: 34
    Significant innings per match: 0.29

    Great innings: 4
    5th Test: West Indies v England at Kingston, Apr 10-15, 1981 | Cricket Scorecard | ESPN Cricinfo 12.87
    1st Test: England v New Zealand at Lord's, Jul 24-29, 1986 | Cricket Scorecard | ESPN Cricinfo 12.71
    1st Test: England v India at Lord's, Jul 26-31, 1990 | Cricket Scorecard | ESPN Cricinfo 14.26
    1st Test: England v West Indies at Leeds, Jun 6-10, 1991 | Cricket Scorecard | ESPN Cricinfo 25.02


    Innings worth average: 3.10

    25 Test peak adjusted average: 64.11 (1990-1992)
    50 Test peak adjusted average: 53.73 (1986-1994)


    Quality Points: 510
    Career Points: 108
    Peak Points: 133
    TOTAL POINTS: 752




    45. Bobby Simpson (Australia) (1957-1978)



    Career Average: 46.81
    Adjusted career average: 47.19
    Adjusted away average: 44.00
    Adjusted top-opposition average: 47.30
    Top Tier centuries: 2
    Second tier centuries: 4
    Third tier centuries: 4
    Significant innings: 22
    Significant innings per match: 0.35

    Great innings: 3
    4th Test: England v Australia at Manchester, Jul 23-28, 1964 | Cricket Scorecard | ESPN Cricinfo 12.70
    4th Test: Australia v England at Adelaide, Jan 28-Feb 1, 1966 | Cricket Scorecard | ESPN Cricinfo 13.90
    2nd Test: Australia v India at Perth, Dec 16-21, 1977 | Cricket Scorecard | ESPN Cricinfo 14.84

    Innings worth average: 2.90

    25 Test peak adjusted average: 64.22 (1964-1977)
    50 Test peak adjusted average: 51.82 (1960-1978)


    Quality Points: 542
    Career Points: 78
    Peak Points: 133
    TOTAL POINTS: 752
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