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Cullinan attacks Proteas for not wearing black armbands
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I think I agree with Cullinan here. South Africa should acknowledge the guys from the past, but it needs to be done with sensitivity. |
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it doesn't even have to be done with sensitivity. just acknowledge them.
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How is this an issue? It would have been nice, but it's not like it's malicious.
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If anything, the black armband gets wheeled out for too much these days. That said, Adcock and van der Merwe are two pretty significant names in South African cricket history to 'snub' in such a way.
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I think Cullinan makes a good point though, part of the reason why SA is such a great team now, and why SA has a pretty strong cricket culture is because of what happened in the past. These guys need to be acknowledged too, especially people like Adcock and Van der Merwe. Adcock was probably the best fast bowler had in the pre-isolation days while Van der Merwe laid much of the foundation for Bacher's great team.
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I'm trying to recall any occasions when a side has worn black armbands because a former player has died. I think football gets it right nowadays when these things are acknowledged by a minute's applause. afaics Cullinan's just making mischief.
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Which I agree with, but understand the sensitivity around the issue.
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I am not really aware of the overall issue but what's the sensitivity around it?
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Well black players weren't allowed to be picked back in the day, so some say it's unfair to laud the old, "white" teams in an official manner given they were run in a manner against the nation's policies.
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very complex and sensitive situation. It brings back the debate of the pros and cons of 1994 Truth and Reconciliation comission. Do you forgive past transgressors or do you punish every one of them and in the process imprison a significant majority of the white population? Same applies here. Do you laud the apartheide RSA players or do you sweep their achievements under the carpet and in doing so black out a generation of cricketing history. Tbf, I can see Cullinan's point about where to draw the line but I also appreciate where Smith, Kirsten and Co are coming from. They have to eat and sleep amongst the likes of Amla, Tsotsobe, Duminy etc and remain accountable to all south african cricket fans in order to facilitate true reconcilation and racial harmony at the grass roots level and maybe they thought of their actions as a small price for a greater cause.
Also not correct to compare bradman with apartheide cricketers because he was a modest character who didn't even smoke cigarettes let alone engage in racial discrimination!
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