West Indies will rise to the top again - Page 2

Daemon · 13-10-2012, 06:27 AM

Stay classy

BoyBrumby · 13-10-2012, 06:30 AM

Is the resurgence of West Indies players of sub-continental extraction a factor? For a very long time (between Kanhai and Kallicharan's retirements and Chanders's emergence, so a decade and a half at least) the Windies team seemed pretty much uniformly Afro-caribbean.

Chanders has been a feature for nearly two decades himself now (think he debuted in 94 in the test in which Lara first broke the test record, if my memory serves) but he's been joined by more and more Indo-caribbeans.

Daemon · 13-10-2012, 08:00 AM

chanders, narine, ramps, ramdin? sarwan. any more doing the rounds?

NasserFan207 · 13-10-2012, 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Daemon

chanders, narine, ramps, ramdin? sarwan. any more doing the rounds?

Badree and Barath are both Indo-Caribbean

T&T and Guyana are about 40-50% Indo

Noble One · 13-10-2012, 08:11 AM

Narsingh Deonarine and Assad Fudadin.

It's a strong theory. I have read a couple of good articles on the subject.

smalishah84 · 13-10-2012, 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Daemon

Stay classy

wasn't that classy?

SeamUp · 13-10-2012, 09:06 AM

Do Indo-Carribeans originate from India or are they of South American Indian's descent ?

Stupid question probably because probably Asian Indians. When did they start going to the Carribean?

NasserFan207 · 13-10-2012, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by SeamUp

Do Indo-Carribeans originate from India or are they of South American Indian's descent ?

Stupid question probably because probably Asian Indians. When did they start going to the Carribean?

Its a mix, but the vast majority are from the subcontinent. They are there for similar reasons black people are there, during the empire building days they were transported over there as 'indentured labour'. There's also a small Irish population on one of the islands who are descended from rebels sent there for the same reason.

They are all West Indian though, the Indo-Caribbeans still have parts of their culture from India intact, quite a few are Hindus

SeamUp · 13-10-2012, 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by NasserFan207

Its a mix, but the vast majority are from the subcontinent. They are there for similar reasons black people are there, during the empire building days they were transported over there as 'indentured labour'. There's also a small Irish population on one of the islands who are descended from rebels sent there for the same reason.

Cheers for that mate.

Whats that leggies name for Guyana? I remember in one of the Champions League's a few years ago Guyana had a Chinese sounding name as well.

Pretty similar here in the Republic then when the British or the Dutch East India Company brought the Indians to work on the sugar canes in Durban and the Malay's were brought to Cape Town as 'indentured labourers'.

NasserFan207 · 13-10-2012, 09:27 AM

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Cheers for that mate.

Whats that leggies name for Guyana? I remember in one of the Champions League's a few years ago Guyana had a Chinese sounding name as well.

Pretty similar here in the Republic then when the British or the Dutch East India Company brought the Indians to work on the sugar canes in Durban and the Malay's were brought to Cape Town as 'indentured labourers'.

Exactly yeah, think of the 'coloureds' in SA and its basically the same system

Dunno exactly which leggie you are thinking of, Chinese name huh?

SeamUp · 13-10-2012, 10:06 AM

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Exactly yeah, think of the 'coloureds' in SA and its basically the same system

Dunno exactly which leggie you are thinking of, Chinese name huh?

Did some looking up.

The leggie is Devandra Bishoo.

The Chinese lad is Jonathan Foo.

Spooony · 13-10-2012, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by NasserFan207

Exactly yeah, think of the 'coloureds' in SA and its basically the same system

Dunno exactly which leggie you are thinking of, Chinese name huh?

What system?

NasserFan207 · 13-10-2012, 03:28 PM

Systems the wrong word, meant situation

Spooony · 13-10-2012, 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by NasserFan207

Systems the wrong word, meant situation

I am colored myself' and sometimes I have to laugh when people post racial classification. Especially when talking about South Africa as it can be the most confusing thing ever. Indian in Cape Town is from Cape Malay ancestry but a Indian in Durban is from Indian ancestry. Most just gave up and call everyone of mix race coloreds

doesitmatter · 15-10-2012, 07:33 AM

Westindies can rise to the top in ODIs but to be among top 3 in tests what they have to do is

1) make the pitches faster with bounce.. they have become slower and lower(Lara affect me thinks) to encourage run scoring/stroke making and to bowl fast..
2) have a structure at the school and grass root level to identify the right players
3) Administer in the young minds the westindies pride ....i see the main problem is that since these are different nations in itself and when a distraction like IPL happens these players find it fine not to play for westindies..this should not be allowed to happen
4) find some tall fb's please

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BoyBrumby Englishman Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Doing the stance Posts: 42,629	Is the resurgence of West Indies players of sub-continental extraction a factor? For a very long time (between Kanhai and Kallicharan's retirements and Chanders's emergence, so a decade and a half at least) the Windies team seemed pretty much uniformly Afro-caribbean. Chanders has been a feature for nearly two decades himself now (think he debuted in 94 in the test in which Lara first broke the test record, if my memory serves) but he's been joined by more and more Indo-caribbeans. __________________ *- As featured in The Independent.* "This is not the time for namby-pamby promising youngsters who might just do something; not the time for building for the future. Pragmatism rules and they don't come more pragmatic than Rogers." - Victor Marks makes the case for stiff-legged and stiff-armed 35 year old left-handers in Ashes squads

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