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    Quote Originally Posted by tooextracool View Post
    Of course they did. The logic of selecting 4 average spin bowlers on any pitch is baffling to say the least. Unless you had the quality of Chandra, Bedi, Prasanna and Venkat. And quite possibly worse than picking Bresnan for this game quite frankly.
    Bresnan was the best choice available.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Biryani Pillow View Post
    Bresnan was the best choice available.
    No. On this pitch Onions would have sliced and diced his way through India. Bresnan has been substandard for a while now.

    One has to question where the current management seems to rate Onions at this point. If someone who was dropped earlier in the series for not being good enough is playing ahead of him, despite having the kind of conditions that are overwhelmingly in his favor.
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    Will be the first time since 1983 India would have lost 3 tests at home. And that was against the mighty West Indies team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tooextracool View Post
    No. On this pitch Onions would have sliced and diced his way through India.
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    Nothing I've ever seen from Onions bowling has suggested that to me. He seems very overated on this site.

    Bresnan has often bowled well on very flat pitches and also frequently gets movement with an old ball.


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    It's not often I agree with Botham, but he said Meaker was his shout before the game.

    Think I could've been persuaded, actually. Faster bowler than both Bresnan and Onions and a better batsman than Onions too. I think with his trajectory (all three bowl a similar line, tbf) and extra pace he could've done more on this deck than we've seen from Bresnan so far.

    It was interesting to note his speed gun measurements too; in his initial burst he was around 82-4mph but by the close down around 77-8mph, whereas Anderson was up and around 85mph throughout.

    I really think he's lost a yard since his elbow probs.

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    As has been said before, Meaker being picked would've been worth it just for the Scaly dummy spit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BoyBrumby View Post
    It's not often I agree with Botham, but he said Meaker was his shout before the game.

    Think I could've been persuaded, actually. Faster bowler than both Bresnan and Onions and a better batsman than Onions too. I think with his trajectory (all three bowl a similar line, tbf) and extra pace he could've done more on this deck than we've seen from Bresnan so far.

    It was interesting to note his speed gun measurements too; in his initial burst he was around 82-4mph but by the close down around 77-8mph, whereas Anderson was up and around 85mph throughout.

    I really think he's lost a yard since his elbow probs.

    Hope he proves me wrong tomorrow by reversing the old nut round corners.
    I thought it was more of a case of reading the situation.

    Batsmen under pressure at the end of the day, deny them runs, bowl a good line with some swing, low bounce now and then. The best you can do is survive.

    Meaker's one 'problem' is he's not a tall bowler - plenty of pace though. I suspect the selctors don't think him quite 'ready'.

    Finn would have been very tough here on days 3 and 4 I reckon.

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    BB I agree with you, I love Bresnan but it has got to the stage now where he should be dropped and I wouldn't take him to NZ. Let him have an op if he needs one and then get fully fit and firing for Yorkshire in Division 1. If he has totally lost the extra nip then sadly his test career looks over. Maybe the NZ tour is a chance to look at Woakes?

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    yes meaker or onions would have been a better bet than bresnan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoyBrumby View Post
    Didn't keep that low, did it? Hit middle three-quarters of the way up.

    Sachin left a massive gate there. Starting to look terminal for the great man.
    I didn't see it, but was it anything like this in terms of the bounce?

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    Meaker wasn't even with the squad afaik so he couldn't be selected.

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    Quote Originally Posted by theegyptian View Post
    Meaker wasn't even with the squad afaik so he couldn't be selected.
    Meaker was brought into the squad a while ago when Finn and Broad both had injury troubles. He was available for selection.

    England in India 2012-13 : Stuart Meaker called up to England squad | Cricket News | India v England | ESPN Cricinfo

    Unless you just mean he wasn't at the ground for some reason.

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    i think he left before the start of the kolkata test to join the performance squad in pune.

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