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    AWTA. Issue is identifying which cricketers were good at that from an era when running between the wickets wasn't valued due to the non-existence of ODI cricket. Hence, selecting a side of power hitters is far easier.

    Perhaps my XI should look more like this:

    1. Richards
    2. Macartney
    3. Ranjitsinhji (???)
    4. Harvey
    5. Worrell
    6. Miller
    7. Walcott +
    8. Procter
    9. Larwood
    10. O'Reilly
    11. Grimmett

    Honestly no clue who to slot in at 5 there, however.
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    Quote Originally Posted by watson View Post
    At Dover in 1937 Kent were set 218 to win off about 27-28 overs during the final day in their match against Gloustershire. Woolley (aged 50 years) opened the innings and smashed 44 runs during the opening 2 overs to set the tone. Lesley Ames came in at No.3 and then belted 70 in 39 minutes. In end Kent scored the require runs in just 23 overs, and with 19 minutes to spare;

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    Point being, I reckon that Ames would go OK in a ODI.


    Now that I think of it, Frank Woolley is also a tempting selection due to his 305 runs in less than 2 sessions (229 minutes) against Tasmania in 1912 (among others);

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    Kee...rist! Glocs didn't have any opening bowlers but Kent blasted 98 runs off Goddard's 8 overs. 12 an over off the guy who was consistently in the top 5 of the county championship averages.

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    Also, today's ATG XI has Steven Smith batting at 5.

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    B. Richards
    L. Hutton
    D. Bradman
    S. Tendulkar
    S. Smith
    G. Sobers
    A. Gilchrist
    M. Marshall
    P. Siddle
    S. Warne
    D. Lillee


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    Quote Originally Posted by Monk View Post
    J. Hobbs
    L. Hutton
    D. Bradman
    V. Richards
    S. Smith
    K. Miller
    A. Gilchrist
    M. Marshall
    P. Siddle
    H. Larwood
    B. O'Reilly
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    Quote Originally Posted by Monk View Post
    B. Richards
    L. Hutton
    D. Bradman
    S. Tendulkar
    S. Smith
    G. Sobers
    A. Gilchrist
    M. Marshall
    P. Siddle
    S. Warne
    D. Lillee
    B. Richards
    L. Hutton
    D. Bradman
    S. Tendulkar
    S. Smith
    G. Sobers
    A. Gilchrist
    M. Marshall
    P. Siddle
    A. Agar

    D. Lillee

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    Would this be the most representative XI of all time?

    Jack Hobbs (3)
    Len Hutton (5)
    Don Bradman (4)
    W G Grace (1)
    Viv Richards (7)
    Garry Sobers (6)
    Adam Gilchrist (10)
    Malcolm Marshall (8)
    Shane Warne (9)
    Sydney Barnes (2)
    Dale Steyn (11)

    Bracketed numbers denote the position of their eras from the earliest to the latest
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    @harsh....representative in what sense?
    And smalishah's avatar is the most classy one by far Jan certainly echoes the sentiments of CW

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    Been working on these

    Ashes XI

    01. Sir Jack Hobbs
    02. Sir Len Hutton
    03. Sir Don Bradman*
    04. Greg Chappell ^
    05. Wally Hammond (5)^
    06. Allan Border
    07. Adam Gilchrist +
    08. Shane Warne (4)^
    09. Fred Trueman (3)
    10. Dennis Lillee (2)
    11. Glenn McGrath (1)

    Sub Continent XI

    01. Sunil Gavaskar ^
    02. Saeed Anwar
    03. Rahul Dravid ^
    04. Sachin Tendulkar
    05. Javed Miandad ^
    06. Kumar Sangakkara +
    07. Kapil Dev (5)
    08. Imran Khan* (1)
    09. Wasim Akram (3)
    10. Waqar Younis (2)
    11. Muttiah Muralitharan (4)

    R.O.W. XI

    01. Barry Richards ^
    02. George Headley *
    03. Sir I.V.A. Richards
    04. Graeme Pollock
    05. Brian Lara ^
    06. Sir Garry Sobers (5) ^
    07. Mike Procter (3)
    08. John Waite +
    09. Malcolm Marshall (1)
    10. Curtly Ambrose (2)
    11. Hugh Tayfield (4)

    So who would win?
    Last edited by kyear2; 26-07-2013 at 04:20 AM.
    Aus. XI
    Simpson^ | Hayden | Bradman | Chappell^ | Ponting | Border* | Gilchrist+ | Davidson3 | Warne4^ | Lillee1 | McGrath2


    W.I. XI
    Greenidge | Hunte | Richards^ | Headley* | Lara^ | Sobers5^ | Walcott+ | Marshall1 | Ambrose2 | Holding3 | Garner4

    S.A. XI
    Richards^ | Smith*^ | Amla | Pollock | Kallis5^ | Nourse | Waite+ | Procter3 | Steyn1 | Tayfield4 | Donald2

    Eng. XI
    Hobbs | Hutton*^ | Hammond^ | Compton | Barrington | Botham5^ | Knott | Trueman1 | Laker4 | Larwood2 | Barnes3

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    Quote Originally Posted by kyear2 View Post
    So who would win?
    Straight up, gut feeling, intuition: The Ashes XI
    Tendulkar - M.Waugh - Ponting - Richards - Dhoni - Bevan - Kapil Dev - Hadlee - Akram - Garner - Muralitharan

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    Quote Originally Posted by smalishah84 View Post
    @harsh....representative in what sense?
    Representative of all eras. Grace for the 1880-90s, Barnes 1900-15, Hobbs 1910-20s, Bradman 1930s, Hutton 1940-50s, Sobers 1960-74, Viv 1975-85, Marshall 1984-91, Warne 1990s, Gilchrist 2000s and Steyn the current one :P

    Quote Originally Posted by kyear2 View Post
    Been working on these

    R.O.W. XI

    01. Barry Richards ^
    02. George Headley *
    03. Sir I.V.A. Richards
    04. Graeme Pollock
    05. Brian Lara ^
    06. Sir Garry Sobers (5) ^
    07. Andy Flower +
    08. Sir Richard Hadlee (3)
    09. Malcolm Marshall (1)
    10. Curtly Ambrose (2)
    11. Dale Steyn (4)

    So who would win?
    Get Tayfield in this side and I would pick it

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    Quote Originally Posted by harsh.skm View Post
    Representative of all eras. Grace for the 1880-90s, Barnes 1900-15, Hobbs 1910-20s, Bradman 1930s, Hutton 1940-50s, Sobers 1960-74, Viv 1975-85, Marshall 1984-91, Warne 1990s, Gilchrist 2000s and Steyn the current one :P



    Get Tayfield in this side and I would pick it
    Agreed. Marshall-Ambrose-Hadlee-Sobers is plenty enough fire-power.

    Plus, the off-spinners Athol Rowan/ Ian Johnson must have troubled Hutton due to the number of times they dismissed him. Therefore, Tayfield is probably a good option against the Ashes XI openers if they get set.
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    changed the ROW XI. Think for the better, don't know what u guys would think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kyear2 View Post
    changed the ROW XI. Think for the better, don't know what u guys would think.
    Waite at No.7 and Hadlee at No.8 ?

    Plus Tayfield was handy with the bat. Should be a bit higher up the order.
    Last edited by watson; 26-07-2013 at 05:15 AM.



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