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    Gun article.

    I think most keepers can stand up, at a pinch, to 130kms, High 130s and definitely 140kms sees them standing back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Immenso View Post
    Anyone else liking the look of D Bartlett?
    I looked at the wicket delivery on the bcs site. Very front on action. Not a big fan of what I saw.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hurricane View Post
    Gun article.

    I think most keepers can stand up, at a pinch, to 130kms, High 130s and definitely 140kms sees them standing back.
    It's not really pace that's the issue - it's the bounce. There's a great cricket photo at Lord's with a keeper (better men than I can tell you who) up at the stumps and the slips way, way back. But 140km plus would be tricky for a few reasons...one being that bowlers that hit 140 plus feel they've earned the right to not have a niggly lil gloveman try and prove his manhood by standing up. He should have proven that by becoming a fast bowler.

    And as for Deano...hits a length harder than most bowlers on the circuit and nibbles it around a bit. Will develop into a very good domestic bowler

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    Who is this fella then? WSA Williams | Cricket | Cricket Players and Officials | ESPN Cricinfo

    My usual questions-anybody know DOB, batting/bowling style, etc?
    The scorecards on blackcaps.co.nz get updated overnight, becoming video scorecards wot previous days play loaded within. You can now see his wicket. RMF I would judge


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    Woah, Fulton joins the Twin-hundred's Club. From the scoring rate, it sounds like a real battle of attrition.

    It's proving to be quite an all-or-nothing season for batsmen. Lots of innings where only one or two guys make runs, lots of players scoring a big knock amongst numerous low scores. Cachopa and Rutherford stand out in that they seem to make a significant contribution in at least one innings per game.
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    A return to form for 2 meter Peter after years without a FC ton.

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    Fulton's career is really heavily weighted in favour of the first half runs wise. After 2007 his conversion rate falls away drastically.

    Will be keen to watch him bat when the clips get uploaded. Didn't have many NZ equals in his pomp.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flem274* View Post
    Fulton's career is really heavily weighted in favour of the first half runs wise. After 2007 his conversion rate falls away drastically.

    Will be keen to watch him bat when the clips get uploaded. Didn't have many NZ equals in his pomp.
    Haha, yeah always loved his swivel-pull for 6. Was surprised and disappointed that he wasn't more consistent for New Zealand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blain View Post
    With the all rounders going round atm, and with the old/average ones in the Blackcaps (Ellis, Oram), who do you think has the most potential to take the next spot available? Basically they all need another season in domestic to get experience.

    I'm fans of Boam, Neesham and probably Anderson (Looks like he's back to bowling full time, and looks handy). I think it's pretty dumb leaving Boam out of the Firebirds, and having Elliott there making 0 runs and bowling 5 overs a game. Basically keeping his spot because of experience and a big score every 5 games.
    Coming back to this post because NZ could really do with a bowler who can bat quite well or a batsman who can bowl quite well (a true test all-rounder is too much to ask).

    Apart from those who've already played from NZ (esp. not thinking about what a bowling-fit Ryder would do for our side), looks like there is Boam, Neesham & Anderson as mentioned above, plus potentially Wells and Munro.

    Big disclaimer - this is all just based on what I've seen on the blackcaps website highlights and live streaming when available.

    I'd say Wells is the only one of those who has the potential make it as a bowler (who can bat a bit). Height, reasonable action and swing. But he has a long way to go to turn that potential into wickets even at domestic level, plus is already 28. I don't think his batting is particularly good though this may be because it reminds me a bit of Oram and his good days have receded a long way back into my memory.

    The other four all would need to make it as batsmen (who can bowl a bit). Guess Munro has the best batting numbers so far but is the worst bowler (or at least the one with the least potential) - bowling probably wouldn't be much better than Franklin's at international level. Neesham does really look like he could be a good batsman, plus a containing bowler who can surprise batsman with bounce. Anderson perhaps slightly less batting potential than Neesham but there's a little more potential in his bowling (I like his bowling action anyway). Haven't seen enough of Boam's batting in recent times, while his bowling is pretty uncomplicated but not likely to take many wickets.

    So I guess Neesham and Anderson the ones to watch, with the idea that after a good season they'd bat at 6 or 7 for NZ with the other two of 6-8 taken by Vettori and keeper.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bahnz View Post
    Haha, yeah always loved his swivel-pull for 6. Was surprised and disappointed that he wasn't more consistent for New Zealand.

    Welcome back btw.
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    **** Canterbury are going slow. Hope that pitch is crap, because if not scoring 250 runs in just under 4 sessions really average stuff. Otago might have a good crack if they can get in before lunch.

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    Heh, just saw this:

    WSA Williams handled ball 1 7 13 0 0


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    Flem! Welcome back. From the dead, unlike Taranaki's Hawke Cup campaign.

    A little bantamweight war of attrition this match, on a slow and low pitch with underpowered sides. Saw New Jimmeh utilised the low bounce to get some of those nice slap pulls wide of mid-on going, proving a chronic LBW risk this guy though. Every couple of overs he'll play across the line and there'll be a shout.

    Really hope LO national duty extracts Neesham from Dunedin soon tbf. As long as he's with Wells and Butts and co. he'll keep enjoying the permanent piss-take student life too much to actually want fame all that much.
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    Dean Bartlett - YouTube

    I fell into the same trap as Immenso I think, looks much cooler front-on. Still, really good movement both ways off the seam at times, and can get good lift off a length.

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    Quote Originally Posted by straw man View Post
    Coming back to this post because NZ could really do with a bowler who can bat quite well or a batsman who can bowl quite well (a true test all-rounder is too much to ask).

    Apart from those who've already played from NZ (esp. not thinking about what a bowling-fit Ryder would do for our side), looks like there is Boam, Neesham & Anderson as mentioned above, plus potentially Wells and Munro.

    Big disclaimer - this is all just based on what I've seen on the blackcaps website highlights and live streaming when available.

    I'd say Wells is the only one of those who has the potential make it as a bowler (who can bat a bit). Height, reasonable action and swing. But he has a long way to go to turn that potential into wickets even at domestic level, plus is already 28. I don't think his batting is particularly good though this may be because it reminds me a bit of Oram and his good days have receded a long way back into my memory.

    The other four all would need to make it as batsmen (who can bowl a bit). Guess Munro has the best batting numbers so far but is the worst bowler (or at least the one with the least potential) - bowling probably wouldn't be much better than Franklin's at international level. Neesham does really look like he could be a good batsman, plus a containing bowler who can surprise batsman with bounce. Anderson perhaps slightly less batting potential than Neesham but there's a little more potential in his bowling (I like his bowling action anyway). Haven't seen enough of Boam's batting in recent times, while his bowling is pretty uncomplicated but not likely to take many wickets.

    So I guess Neesham and Anderson the ones to watch, with the idea that after a good season they'd bat at 6 or 7 for NZ with the other two of 6-8 taken by Vettori and keeper.
    I made some early predictions about Munro - but one thing that he is good at is bowling. His action is quite nice. So I think while he may not have potential to improve further he would be a decent guy to get through 4-6 overs in an ODI if asked to as a 6th bowler.



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