Trading Game

[Turbinator]

Originally Posted by Hurricane

Got enough left arm spinners floating around in NZ.

But are you interested in CDG for Mashawinge -

Originally Posted by morgieb

Yes, alright.

If someone wants to deal with me, then I'm all ears.

Yes, approved.

[Hurricane]

Originally Posted by Turbinator

Fine, you've got a deal.

Tremlett for VVS + Mishra + Ishant. Someone to confirm.

Originally Posted by Eds

Good stuff.

Fine.

[NUFAN]

Bangladesh pre-trade:

1. Tamim Iqbal
2. Nazimuddin
3. Shahriar Nafees
4. Mahmudullah
5. Nasir Hossain
6. Shakib Al Hasan
7. Mushfiqur Rahim
8. Elias Sunny
9. Shahadat Hossain
10. Shafiul Islam
11. Rubel Hossain


Bangladesh post trade

1. Murali Vijay
2. Nazimuddin
3. Kirk Edwards
4. Subramaniam Badrinath
5. Brendan Taylor
6. Asad Shafiq
7. Mushfiqur Rahim
8. Abdur Rehman
9. Kyle Jarvis
10. Dilhara Fernando
11. Junaid Khan

12. Nasir Hossain
13. Brent Arnel
14. Shahadat Hossain


I'm really happy with my playing XI. Shakib is obviously a loss but I firmly believe that Taylor and Rehman equals Shakib. If that is the case my team is without doubt better now. You can see the improvement in the batting and the fast bowling.

Only two Bangladeshi's in my XI.

[Athlai]

Fernando is possibly not good enough to play for Bangladesh imo.

Shakib is also a better bowler than Rehman by some way. But overall that team is far stronger.

[Hurricane]

Originally Posted by NUFAN

Bangladesh pre-trade:

1. Tamim Iqbal
2. Nazimuddin
3. Shahriar Nafees
4. Mahmudullah
5. Nasir Hossain
6. Shakib Al Hasan
7. Mushfiqur Rahim
8. Elias Sunny
9. Shahadat Hossain
10. Shafiul Islam
11. Rubel Hossain


Bangladesh post trade

1. Murali Vijay
2. Nazimuddin
3. Kirk Edwards
4. Subramaniam Badrinath
5. Brendan Taylor
6. Asad Shafiq
7. Mushfiqur Rahim
8. Abdur Rehman
9. Kyle Jarvis
10. Dilhara Fernando
11. Junaid Khan

12. Nasir Hossain
13. Brent Arnel
14. Shahadat Hossain


I'm really happy with my playing XI. Shakib is obviously a loss but I firmly believe that Taylor and Rehman equals Shakib. If that is the case my team is without doubt better now. You can see the improvement in the batting and the fast bowling.

Only two Bangladeshi's in my XI.

Definitely strengthened your team through some shrewd trades.

The Zimbos trade was a good one for you.

Good job of using your proceeds of the NZ trade as bargaining chips.

[Eds]

NUFAN and Athers have traded well.

Somers - I'm interested in Morkel.

[NUFAN]

Originally Posted by Athlai

Fernando is possibly not good enough to play for Bangladesh imo.

Shakib is also a better bowler than Rehman by some way. But overall that team is far stronger.

Fernando would be hailed as the greatest Bangladeshi fast bowler of all time if he played for them.

I wanted a strike bowler and seriously I doubt I could have gotten a better bowler unless I traded Shakib differently.

[Eds]

Hurricane - do you still have Vettori?

[Hurricane]

I do but I need him in my team since I already traded away Boult. Dan is my 4th bowler.

[Eds]

Originally Posted by Hurricane

I do but I need him in my team since I already traded away Boult. Dan is my 4th bowler.

Wouldn't be interested in something like the following would you?

Amit Mishra + Eoin Morgan + Steve Davies = Dan Vettori.

Looking at your squad, I think they'd all get into it. You can always swap Morgan for someone of similar quality who you prefer, or Davies with the likes of Bairstow etc. as well if you like.

[Hurricane]

Originally Posted by Eds

Wouldn't be interested in something like the following would you?

Amit Mishra + Eoin Morgan + Steve Davies = Dan Vettori.

Looking at your squad, I think they'd all get into it. You can always swap Morgan for someone of similar quality who you prefer, or Davies with the likes of Bairstow etc. as well if you like.

They might make my 14 but not my XI

Just by watching Amit he looks like a good bowler but Dan's stats are better bowling avg of 33 vs 43. I need Dan for his bowling. Mishra is better than the Zimbos back up leggie I traded for however.

Also I was interested in Davies but I ended up with a good keeper through a trade in Prasanna,

Finally Morgan's batting average is 36. The only person he could replace is Watling as a back up player and I am not too fussed about my back up players just my playing XI.

[Eds]

Originally Posted by Hurricane

They might make my 14 but not my XI

Just by watching Amit he looks like a good bowler but Dan's stats are better bowling avg of 33 vs 43. I need Dan for his bowling. Mishra is better than the Zimbos back up leggie I traded for however.

Also I was interested in Davies but I ended up with a good keeper through a trade in Prasanna,

Finally Morgan's batting average is 36. The only person he could replace is Watling as a back up player and I am not too fussed about my back up players just my playing XI.

Mishra has 400 @ 28 in a batting dominated domestic scene. Vettori averages 32 in First Class, so I'm sure Mishra, with more time, would most definitely have reduced his Test average. I'm not saying Mishra is a better bowler than Dan, but he's certainly far better than you're making out.

Davies would be handy for your squad, no?

Okay, fair point. You could swap Morgan in the trade for someone like Hildreth (43 FC average), Bopara (42 + 42), Samit Patel (41 + 37), who gives you an extra spin option as well, or even James Taylor (50).

[Hurricane]

@Athlai are you following this - what is Dan's FC average excluding Tests...including tests it is 31.75.

Dan has like 350 test wickets. Point taken that Mishra may improve in test cricket given more chances but I doubt he will end up with a test average of 28. He should be happy to finish up with Dan's average.

Dan is in the top 5 all rounders in the world according to the ICC rankings.

Not interested in that mix of players or Hildreth etc...

[Eds]

Originally Posted by Hurricane

@Athlai are you following this - what is Dan's FC average excluding Tests...including tests it is 31.75.

Dan has like 350 test wickets. Point taken that Mishra may improve in test cricket given more chances but I doubt he will end up with a test average of 28. He should be happy to finish up with Dan's average.

Dan is in the top 5 all rounders in the world according to the ICC rankings.

Not interested in that mix of players or Hildreth etc...

I'm not saying that Mishra is better than Vettori at all though. He's just a lot better than you're giving him credit for.

Look, let's not just go at this all day - what sort of deal would you need to get rid of Vettori?

[Hurricane]

You just want him to warm the bench. You don't need his bowling and Katich and Laxman are better batsman for the number 6 spot. So aside from looking out for the best interests of the player himself (Vettori). I know that you are not willing to part with any of your 14. So I don't see this happening.

but what would it take - it would take a bowler of proven test standard who actually averages 32 or less coming back. And because he is an all rounder a batsman thrown in who averages 40 (which is what Dan averages in the last while since he improved).