The Aamer Situation

Teja. · 28-08-2010, 10:13 PM

I'm aware that there is a separate thread about the Math-Fixing controversy, however I think there should be a thread about this specific issue.

A report from British Tabloid, News of the World alleges that Mohammad Aamer bowled a deliberate no-ball which was fixed by a certain infamous fixer. If Aamer is directly involved with the fixer, I agree that it should be a straight life ban.

However, What if Salman Butt told the 18-year old to bowl a no-ball or gtfo the team? What if it is not a case of Aamer blatantly raping the honour of the game directly but rather being intimidated into following a captain's order? This does not make his act defensible but IMHO, If this is the case, a life-time ban is very harsh on him.

Thoughts?

silentstriker · 28-08-2010, 10:16 PM

Life ban still.

You don't know what else he did, and while you can't convict him based on that, the fact is such tainted players should not be involved in the game of cricket.

However, the 'manager/match fixer' called Aamer directly to 'prove' he had the players on his side during the meeting.

Spark · 28-08-2010, 10:21 PM

I'm going to wait 'til all the evidence comes to light before deciding on this one.

Matt79 · 28-08-2010, 10:23 PM

All pretty meaningless speculation until the investigation is complete.

kingpin · 28-08-2010, 10:24 PM

If this happen's pakistan will loose all their respect....atleast from me....

silentstriker · 28-08-2010, 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spark

I'm going to wait 'til all the evidence comes to light before deciding on this one.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt79

All pretty meaningless speculation until the investigation is complete.

If it is proven beyond any doubt that he has never done anything like this before and he was pressured by Butt and he did not directly see the money, I would advocate a life ban.

Simple as.

Sir Alex · 28-08-2010, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by silentstriker

Life ban still.

You don't know what else he did, and while you can't convict him based on that, the fact is such tainted players should not be involved in the game of cricket.

However, the 'manager/match fixer' called Aamer directly to 'prove' he had the players on his side during the meeting.

DWTA.

He's just 18 years old, and people have done worse crimes and forgiven. As Teja said, there is every chance that he was forced into doing this.

silentstriker · 28-08-2010, 10:28 PM

Who cares?

And he was called directly by the match fixer at night.

DingDong · 28-08-2010, 10:29 PM

good question teja. but an example needs to made of regardless of what his situation was

Athlai · 28-08-2010, 10:29 PM

He/Pakistan need a ban but I think a lifetime ban is overkill. 2 or so years would do it.

Would also hand out a lifetime ban to the Pakistani player ringleader who they report as Butt. Somebody needs to be made an example of but I wouldn't chuck em all.

silentstriker · 28-08-2010, 10:30 PM

If you look at those videos on NOTW, doesn't look like he was some unwitting participant anyway.

silentstriker · 28-08-2010, 10:31 PM

If people don't advocate a full lifetime ban for TAKING MONEY TO ALTER THE GAME, then this sport is dead.

Pete Rose was banned from baseball for life betting on games he wasn't even playing in. Cricket has zero integrity left if tomorrow morning any of these players are on allowed on Lord's pitch, or any pitch. Ever.

DingDong · 28-08-2010, 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Athlai

He/Pakistan need a ban but I think a lifetime ban is overkill. 2 or so years would do it.

Would also hand out a lifetime ban to the Pakistani player ringleader who they report as Butt. Somebody needs to be made an example of but I wouldn't chuck em all.

ur part of the problem mate. they all need to go, it doesnt matter if hes only 18 he's legally an adult and should be punished like one

DingDong · 28-08-2010, 10:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by silentstriker

If people don't advocate a full lifetime ban for TAKING MONEY TO ALTER THE GAME, then this sport is dead.

Pete Rose was banned from baseball for life betting on games he wasn't even playing in. Cricket has zero integrity left if tomorrow morning any of these players are on allowed on Lord's pitch, or any pitch. Ever.

agree completely

GotSpin · 28-08-2010, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Sir Alex

DWTA.

He's just 18 years old, and people have done worse crimes and forgiven. As Teja said, there is every chance that he was forced into doing this.

That's probably part of the problem init?

View Poll Results: If found guilty, Aamer should be banned for:
2 Years	5	11.36%
5 Years	9	20.45%
10 Years	6	13.64%
Lifetime	18	40.91%
Other (Please specify)	6	13.64%
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28-08-2010, 10:13 PM	#1 (permalink)
Teja. Global Moderator Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: z Posts: 5,880	The Aamer Situation I'm aware that there is a separate thread about the Math-Fixing controversy, however I think there should be a thread about this specific issue. A report from British Tabloid, News of the World alleges that Mohammad Aamer bowled a deliberate no-ball which was fixed by a certain infamous fixer. If Aamer is directly involved with the fixer, I agree that it should be a straight life ban. However, What if Salman Butt told the 18-year old to bowl a no-ball or gtfo the team? What if it is not a case of Aamer blatantly raping the honour of the game directly but rather being intimidated into following a captain's order? This does not make his act defensible but IMHO, If this is the case, a life-time ban is very harsh on him. Thoughts?

28-08-2010, 10:24 PM	#5 (permalink)
kingpin State Vice-Captain Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: India Posts: 1,126	If this happen's pakistan will loose all their respect....atleast from me.... __________________ Love You India

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28-08-2010, 10:28 PM	#8 (permalink)
silentstriker The Wheel is Forever Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: USA Posts: 36,524	Who cares? And he was called directly by the match fixer at night.

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DingDong International 12th Man Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: m Posts: 1,636	good question teja. but an example needs to made of regardless of what his situation was

28-08-2010, 10:30 PM	#11 (permalink)
silentstriker The Wheel is Forever Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: USA Posts: 36,524	If you look at those videos on NOTW, doesn't look like he was some unwitting participant anyway.

28-08-2010, 10:31 PM	#12 (permalink)
silentstriker The Wheel is Forever Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: USA Posts: 36,524	If people don't advocate a full lifetime ban for TAKING MONEY TO ALTER THE GAME, then this sport is dead. Pete Rose was banned from baseball for life betting on games he wasn't even playing in. Cricket has zero integrity left if tomorrow morning any of these players are on allowed on Lord's pitch, or any pitch. Ever.

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