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    why batting collapses are rare?

    Why is that in batting, there are usally 1 or 2 players who will score a half century or even a century ? why overall batting collapses are rare? Like getting 50 all out or even 100 all out. They are pretty rare.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SaeedAnwar View Post
    Why is that in batting, there are usally 1 or 2 players who will score a half century or even a century ? why overall batting collapses are rare? Like getting 50 all out or even 100 all out. They are pretty rare.
    They still happen...

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    He said as much himself, he just said they were rare.

    I'd say the rarity is behind the fact that batsmen are good at what they do and the fact that in the modern game quite often Test number 8 and 9s are more than competent with the bat. Or in the case of England and Graham Onions, your number 11 is!
    If a team loses early wickets than the following batsmen are inevitably going to bat more cautiously and look to just score runs without risking their wickets. Such cautiosness reduces the risk of the collapse..

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    Think it's just to do with the unlikelihood of all 11 batsman failing TBH, nothing more complex than that. Batsmen tend to be pretty good and generally at least one of them does well because of that.
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    not rare if you have been following the clowns also known as Pakistan cricket team.

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    They still happen cf. us @ Lord's, Oval, England at Headingley, Pakistan (in general).

    Pitches a big factor obviously - takes a special effort to collapse on the concrete roads that are laid down nowadays.
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    ^ Yep its a combination of a lot of factors
    Pitches easier to bat on
    Lack of 'great' fast bowlers or even spinners around with Murali about to retire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SaeedAnwar View Post
    Why is that in batting, there are usally 1 or 2 players who will score a half century or even a century ? why overall batting collapses are rare? Like getting 50 all out or even 100 all out. They are pretty rare.
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    There is something so reassuring about an England collapse.

    They do seem to be getting rarer these days, although Headingley was a wonderful nostalgic blast from the past in a series that was otherwise so unusual.

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    I am not sure if its rare though..Didnt they collapse againnst South Africa earlier this year?? They just havent played test cricket in 6 months so it seems rare..and the will be up against two crap sides in this summer so they might not have a collapse this summer...

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    Oh we are still prone to bouts of collective crapness, there was the debacle against the West Indies last not long ago.

    Still it seems to happen rather less these days, our lower order is certainly far better than it ever has been before.

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    how can a Pakistan fan talk about lack of batting collapses?

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    Would going from say 200-2 to 290 all out fit your definition of a batting collapse?

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    Not so rare I guess (133 instances)

    1990s.

    http://stats.cricinfo.com/ci/engine/...tsval1=wickets

    91 instances.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teja. View Post
    Would going from say 200-2 to 290 all out fit your definition of a batting collapse?
    no, because clearly 1-2 players scored runs at the begining of the innings, i am talking about anything below 100 allout, they are rare.

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