Sir Alex
Banned
Fail to see the connection between India running it's own domestic T20 competition and "India needs other big cricketing nations just as much as we need India"
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20/20 is taking my interest from cricket away
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GotSpin
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Because I was addressing the two different points brought up by SS...
silentstriker
The Wheel is Forever
Domestic league in UK preceded the IPL. T20 was creqted in the UK and it was popular pre-IPL.
Well obviously they can't play themselves.
GotSpin
Hall of Fame Member
Yeah to be fair I wouldn't know much about the TV rights in India. But how evenly split is this?
The 2006/2007 Ashes had James Sutherland doing a 'here comes the money' dance in his office probably
Jono
Virat Kohli (c)
Considering India touring NZ last year was the most the NZ board have ever earned from a tour, it'd have to be pretty well split for Boards you'd think.
Though we don't really have specific numbers (well I don't anyway) so it's all guess work.
But yes, for sure the Ashes (especially post 2005) is a money making machine.
Though we don't really have specific numbers (well I don't anyway) so it's all guess work.
But yes, for sure the Ashes (especially post 2005) is a money making machine.
GotSpin
Hall of Fame Member
They didn't offer the obscenely large sums of money that IPL did though and that definitely does not benefit the game.
GotSpin
Hall of Fame Member
The Ashes is fairly popular every year in Australia. Of course, in 2004, we had Steve Waugh's farewell tour though. It'll be interesting to see how popular it is in 2010/2011
Sir Alex
Banned
Wow how
GotSpin
Hall of Fame Member
You think offering players such large amounts of money to play in a domestic competition that they'd rather miss international obligations than miss an IPL contract is good thing. Not to mention rescheduling the international calendar around the competition and the tendency for players to retire early so they can earn some quick money in IPL in their twilight years. Thought this was pretty clear.
Sir Alex
Banned
No International player can feature in IPL without "NOC" from his board. Boards can refuse permission if they feel a player has "deliberately" avoided national duty (by retiring early etc) to play in the IPL.
How does a retired player earning a few quick bucks in his "twilight" years affecting the game? I would love to see instances where International calenders have been "rescheduled" to accomodate IPL, and if at all, at what cost. AFAI ICC has denied IPL a window in the calendar.
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GotSpin
Hall of Fame Member
How can boards refuse permission if a player has retired early and no longer has a central contract.
GotSpin
Hall of Fame Member
While a player may be in his twilight years he can still provide a great asset for his country. One such instance was Shane Bond during his many retirements. I don't see it as a particularly good thing when a player decides to retire in his early 30s so he can go have a hit in the IPL for a lot more money for a lot less time.
You have to be joking if you don't believe that the international calender has been reorganised around the IPL. I don't think it's a coincidence that there is no other cricket on during that period whatsoever. At what cost? Umm, perhaps longer tours against other nations perhaps etc.
GotSpin
Hall of Fame Member
Nah. Overpaid sports players is a joke when they'd rather play in a domestic competition than for their country.
Sir Alex
Banned
I believe there is a 3 year period where the Board will still have say even after player's retirement.
Sir Alex
Banned
So what about players like Hamish Marshall, Ian O Brien etc? Did they all announce their retirements to play in the IPL as well?
Bond in all probability, even without IPL, wouldn't have played more than what he played for NZ in the last 2-3 years.
I asked for specific instances and at what cost they were rearranged. It seems you are just interested in accusing without backing up with facts. Well, FYI, Australia vs New Zealand series certainly in progress during the initial days of the IPL.
I can't remember a single season in the IPL which did NOT overlap with one International series or the other.
GotSpin
Hall of Fame Member
I haven't heard of this before so maybe you are right. However, is this really practical? A player could say he retired for a number of reasons.
Jono
Virat Kohli (c)
Doesn't this just show how valuable international cricket 'really' is to some of these players?
If it's truly the pinnacle, it'll either warrant the money to be paid, or players will reject money and play for their country.
How are they 'overpaid' by the way? They're the ones increasing the TV ratings.
GotSpin
Hall of Fame Member
While a tour may infringe on the IPL for a couple days there's no denying that there has been a period somewhat carved out in the calendar so that most players can play in the IPL. Though an International tour may overlap by a day or two, you be can certain it wouldn't dare interrupt the important parts of the tournament. Furthermore, the presence of the IPL has cut out precious preparation time for future tours. The Indian team had what was it, a couple days between finishing up in the IPL and playing the ICC 20/20 World championships.
Players may not publicly announce that they retired in order to play in the IPL, but I can assure you its a massive factor outlining their decision.