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Selectors

marc71178

Eyes not spreadsheets
Mr Mxyzptlk said:
There's no evidence that Rikki Clarke will be persisted with in a Flintoff-esque fashion.
Yet the Flintoff decision is beginning to look a very right decision.
 

gibbsnsmith

State Vice-Captain
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Bazza said:
Is this the same Nick Knight who played 17 tests and averaged 23?

And is this the same Mark Wagh whose consistent great performances have over the last 5 years consisted of:

26, 21, 45, 58, 26.

I wouldn't exactly call that great, and certainly not consistent!

not exactly what my mates book of averages [of english county cricket says]

wagh has an overall average of 43 according to this and knight 29 in 17 tests.

But anyway, on the point by someone about tresco being calle3d up despite having an ordinary average beinmg a right decision...did i say that it was wrong, just questionable
 

Langeveldt

Soutie
marc71178 said:
Elaborate on that...

Flintoff - Although to extent this is starting to pay off I agree...

Rikki Clarke

Rob Key wouldnt have lasted that long a few years ago

Steve Harmison - I know you will disagree but he could well have been given the chop permanently if he was playing a few years back, with the selectors desperate hunger for instant success...

James Foster - persevered with for a while
 

marc71178

Eyes not spreadsheets
2 of those 5 are beginning to come off (Flintoff in a big way) though.

Clarke never did anything that wrong for England yet - didn't really get a batting chance to be fair.

Key showed guts in Aus, so deserved another go.

With Foster, there wasn't really a chance to dump him as there wasn't the cover really.
 

Rik

Cricketer Of The Year
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marc71178 said:
I reply as I go through the thread in order, so therefore hadn't read the entire thread by the time I replied to you.

Still if you're going to try and have a go when you're wrong yourself (undeniably so since it's not a question of opinion) then it needs to be pointed out.
I'm wrong? On what charge? I said he was not that old when Gough and Caddick were in their prime, I said that to Eddie and surely that could have made you realise what I ment after I made a mistake? I mean, people don't usually keep on talking about something like that if they mean something different? I think you will find that when Gough and Caddick were in their prime Bicknell was only around 30-31, so therefor no mistake has been made except the wrong quote which I then explained to Eddie. My point is not wrong Marc, so your comment, and this arguement, was and is not needed.
 

marc71178

Eyes not spreadsheets
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Rik said:
I think you will find that when Gough and Caddick were in their prime Bicknell was only around 30-31, so therefor no mistake has been made except the wrong quote which I then explained to Eddie.
But it wasn't just the wrong quote, it was about completely the wrong thing though since we were discussing why Anderson and Jones were picked ahead of Bicknell...
 

Rik

Cricketer Of The Year
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marc71178 said:
Gough and Caddick were in their prime and an awesome pairing, so that's why they weren't broken up.

Why fix something that clearly wasn't broken?





Presumably they didn't see the point in selecting a 34 year old when they were trying to build a side for the future?
Yes Marc, of course Marc, 3 bags full Marc!

So that's why Bicknell's age and Gough and Caddick were being discussed not only in the same thread but also the same post? That's why I'm posting about something totally different which includes 2 of the points I'm using? The old "I'm wrong because Marc says so" again? I might have guessed.
 

marc71178

Eyes not spreadsheets
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Rik said:
Yes Marc, of course Marc, 3 bags full Marc!

So that's why Bicknell's age and Gough and Caddick were being discussed not only in the same thread but also the same post? That's why I'm posting about something totally different which includes 2 of the points I'm using? The old "I'm wrong because Marc says so" again? I might have guessed.
And if you read the post you were quoting you would clearly see that the 34 was referring to why he wasn't called up when the likes Jones and Anderson were.

The fact here is you are wrong because you can't read - it was clear what I was talking about.

I try to reply to posts by cutting them up into small portions where more than one point needs replying to - nobody else gets confused by it.
 

Rik

Cricketer Of The Year
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marc71178 said:
The fact here is you are wrong because you can't read - it was clear what I was talking about
I don't expect this level of pettyness, not even from Chris. Marc, you know full well I can read, so why drag yourself down to such a level? And as for what you were talking about, yes it was clear, but I was talking about something, although not totally on topic, which was related to what you said. Therefor I am not wrong or right.
 

marc71178

Eyes not spreadsheets
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Rik said:
which was related to what you said.
It was not related to what I was talking about since you were talking about things 3 or 4 years ago when I was clearly talking about the last 6 months, a fact clearly borne out by the age I placed on him.

His non-selection when Jones and Anderson have been selected has absolutely nothing to do with how well Gough and Caddick were bowling 2 or 3 years ago, not least because they were injured when one (or both in the case of Gough) were selected.
 

Rik

Cricketer Of The Year
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marc71178 said:
It was not related to what I was talking about since you were talking about things 3 or 4 years ago when I was clearly talking about the last 6 months, a fact clearly borne out by the age I placed on him.

His non-selection when Jones and Anderson have been selected has absolutely nothing to do with how well Gough and Caddick were bowling 2 or 3 years ago, not least because they were injured when one (or both in the case of Gough) were selected.
Yes of course Marc. Anything you say Marc.
 

Andre

International Regular
Thanks mate - I've had exams so I havn't been around all that much.

After today, it's all systems go :D
 

Rik

Cricketer Of The Year
Andre said:
Thanks mate - I've had exams so I havn't been around all that much.

After today, it's all systems go :D
Yay! But now it's off to bed for me! I'll see if I can catch you before I head off tomorrow!
 

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