ICC looking at four 25-over innings in ODIs

morgieb · 11-09-2009, 07:45 PM

ITSTL....

Could this be the boost that ODI's need? Or is it another gimmick that will fail?

nightprowler10 · 11-09-2009, 07:51 PM

Would prefer two 20 over innings instead.

Jakester1288 · 11-09-2009, 07:56 PM

No. Just no.

If this happens, I'm definitely not watching any cricket except for Tests.

slugger · 11-09-2009, 08:19 PM

best idea........ to be honest im surprised it wasn't the original odi format. up to that point we only had test cricket (2 innings) it seems so logical when you look at it in that context..

andyc · 11-09-2009, 08:22 PM

Don't like this idea at all tbh. The whole excitement of ODIs comes from the fact that, as long as the run rate is under say 10 or 11 runs an over, either team can still win it. IMO this will just make one sided matches even more one sided.

slugger · 11-09-2009, 08:35 PM

if there is one point that should be made clear re: 25 over splits is that teams WILL NOT HAVE 2 SETS OF 10 WICKETS. as a team you will still only have 10 wickets as per normal.. for those who complain about this new format will interrupt the batsmen and bowlers innings .. they have obviously forgotten that a test match has many interruptions ..lunch.. tea.. and end of play (5 days) many not out batsmen have had the innings interrupted throughout these points and have gone on to score plenty regardless... this argument does not wash...

jondavluc · 11-09-2009, 08:38 PM

Stupid idea there is no need for the format to change too much it still sells tickets quite well.

NUFAN · 11-09-2009, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by slugger

if there is one point that should be made clear re: 25 over splits is that teams WILL NOT HAVE 2 SETS OF 10 WICKETS. as a team you will still only have 10 wickets as per normal.. for those who complain about this new format will interrupt the batsmen and bowlers innings .. they have obviously forgotten that a test match has many interruptions ..lunch.. tea.. and end of play (5 days) many not out batsmen have had the innings interrupted throughout these points and have gone on to score plenty regardless... this argument does not wash...

Yeah why is everyone thinking that it'll be 2 sets of 10 wickets??

I like the idea, think it's more fair especially for matches effected by Duckworth Lewis. It also gives team management a chance to access the situation a little more and when your mrs says who's winning you can actually give an answer at the half way point of the match.

When I played all my junior cricket in 40 degree plus temperature we used to play four 20 over innings and it worked well.

PS - what is with all the similar ODI threads?

Shri · 11-09-2009, 10:16 PM

So, we are going to have drawn ODIs in case of rain?

slugger · 11-09-2009, 10:35 PM

the only point you need to use DL is when it rains in the final 25 over split.

if it rains at the 1st split and you lose a total of 10 overs of play, you deduct 5 overs each from the current and next split, thus the game will be 20 - 20 - 25 - 25

if it rains at the 2nd split and you lose 10 overs play you deduct 5 overs from the current and next split, thus 25 - 20 - 20 - 25

if it rains at the 3rd split and you lose 10 overs play you deduct 5 overs from the current and next split. thus 25 - 25 -20 - 20

ive made it seem simple.. but frankly.. because the game is evenly divided it gives you an option to deduct overs evenly across the splits.. regardless of when the weather turns bad.

the only point i could see DL needing to be applied is if the weather turns bad in the final split.

Mister Wright · 11-09-2009, 11:03 PM

I really like the idea. Probably could reduce the need for Duckworth Lewis at all.

morgieb · 11-09-2009, 11:12 PM

Yeah the idea makes rain-affected games less complicated. I like it a lot.

straw man · 11-09-2009, 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by slugger

if there is one point that should be made clear re: 25 over splits is that teams WILL NOT HAVE 2 SETS OF 10 WICKETS. as a team you will still only have 10 wickets as per normal..

Hehe, I hadn't realised this. Voted no but your shouty point has actually moved me from thinking it is a totally crap idea to thinking that there may be some merit in it.

briangarg · 12-09-2009, 12:14 AM

Its a totally foolish idea.

Jakester1288 · 12-09-2009, 04:52 AM

I've got to say, Spinksy was first here.

Twenty20 or ODI?

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11-09-2009, 07:56 PM	#3 (permalink)
Jakester1288 International Regular Join Date: May 2008 Location: Afghanistan Posts: 3,533	No. Just no. If this happens, I'm definitely not watching any cricket except for Tests.

11-09-2009, 08:19 PM	#4 (permalink)
slugger State Vice-Captain Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Auckland Posts: 1,052	best idea........ to be honest im surprised it wasn't the original odi format. up to that point we only had test cricket (2 innings) it seems so logical when you look at it in that context..

11-09-2009, 08:35 PM	#6 (permalink)
slugger State Vice-Captain Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Auckland Posts: 1,052	if there is one point that should be made clear re: 25 over splits is that teams WILL NOT HAVE 2 SETS OF 10 WICKETS. as a team you will still only have 10 wickets as per normal.. for those who complain about this new format will interrupt the batsmen and bowlers innings .. they have obviously forgotten that a test match has many interruptions ..lunch.. tea.. and end of play (5 days) many not out batsmen have had the innings interrupted throughout these points and have gone on to score plenty regardless... this argument does not wash...

11-09-2009, 10:16 PM	#9 (permalink)
Shri Cricketer Of The Year Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 8,937	So, we are going to have drawn ODIs in case of rain?

11-09-2009, 10:35 PM	#10 (permalink)
slugger State Vice-Captain Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Auckland Posts: 1,052	the only point you need to use DL is when it rains in the final 25 over split. if it rains at the 1st split and you lose a total of 10 overs of play, you deduct 5 overs each from the current and next split, thus the game will be 20 - 20 - 25 - 25 if it rains at the 2nd split and you lose 10 overs play you deduct 5 overs from the current and next split, thus 25 - 20 - 20 - 25 if it rains at the 3rd split and you lose 10 overs play you deduct 5 overs from the current and next split. thus 25 - 25 -20 - 20 ive made it seem simple.. but frankly.. because the game is evenly divided it gives you an option to deduct overs evenly across the splits.. regardless of when the weather turns bad. the only point i could see DL needing to be applied is if the weather turns bad in the final split.

11-09-2009, 11:12 PM	#12 (permalink)
morgieb Cricketer Of The Year Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Paradise City Posts: 8,944	Yeah the idea makes rain-affected games less complicated. I like it a lot.

12-09-2009, 04:52 AM	#15 (permalink)
Jakester1288 International Regular Join Date: May 2008 Location: Afghanistan Posts: 3,533	I've got to say, Spinksy was first here. Twenty20 or ODI?

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