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    Home track bully XI

    This is a thread dedicated to players who dominate in their own country but are significantly worse outside it. Three names spring to mind instantly.

    Hayden - H: 5210 @ 57.88 A: 3415 @ 42.69 (inc neutral games)
    Haynes - H: 3868 @ 56.05 A: 3619 @ 33.50
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    McDermott - H: 193 @ 26.47 A: 98 @ 32.88
    Kumble - H: 350 @ 24.88 A: 269 @ 35.85
    Qadir - H: 168 @ 26.82 A: 68 @ 47.58

    Current players (i.e. reserve bench):

    Ian Bell - H: 1637 @ 45.47 A: 1367 @ 35.97
    Steve Harmison - H: 128 @ 28.28 A: 93 @ 36.61

    Who is going to fill in the rest of the spots? Remember the criteria is based on the difference between home and away averages. The players should all be world class as well (i.e. 20ish tests or more).

    The rules for this:

    1) The goal is to have the team that is absolutely unbeatable at home and has no chance in hell of winning away. Therefore the greater the disparity the better.
    2) Modern players hit the reserve bench (they can still avoid the team until they retire).
    3) Any player on the list that gets replaced will go into a "rejects" pile.
    Last edited by stephen; 01-05-2009 at 10:05 AM.

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    Ian Bell. Averages 45 in England, 65 in England's first innings of a Test, but away from home the average drops to 35 with only 2 of his 8 Test hundreds coming away from England.
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    Styris to Pietersen, SIX, that's the most extraordinary shot, he switches his grip to that of a left-hander and launches Stryis high over long-off for a might six. That is one of the more incredible shots you'll see

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    Quote Originally Posted by stephen View Post
    This is a thread dedicated to players who dominate in their own country but are significantly worse outside it. Three names spring to mind instantly.

    Hayden
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    McDermott
    Kumble
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    Who is going to fill in the rest of the spots? Remember the criteria is based on the difference between home and away averages. The players should all be world class as well (i.e. 20ish tests or more).
    I haven't looked them up - what are the home/away records of the three men you've listed there?

    I know Abdul Qadir was much, much more successful at home than away.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Sean View Post
    I haven't looked them up - what are the home/away records of the three men you've listed there?

    I know Abdul Qadir was much, much more successful at home than away.
    I have added the stats to my original post.

    Wow, Qadir has a huge disparity.

    H: 168 @ 26.82 A: 68 @ 47.58


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    Quote Originally Posted by King Pietersen View Post
    Ian Bell. Averages 45 in England, 65 in England's first innings of a Test, but away from home the average drops to 35 with only 2 of his 8 Test hundreds coming away from England.
    I'd like to keep this to players who have retired, but I have added him to the reserve bench.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stephen View Post
    I have added the stats to my original post.

    Wow, Qadir has a huge disparity.

    H: 168 @ 26.82 A: 68 @ 47.58
    Amazing stat, that.

    Anyone know Miandad's record of being out LBW home and away?

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    Steve Harmison's Test bowling average (for England)
    At Durham: 23.18
    In England: 28.28
    Outside England: 37.12

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    Desmond Haynes

    H: 3868 runs at 56.05 with 10 Hundreds
    A: 3619 runs at 33.50 with 8 Hundreds

    Makhaya Ntini:

    H: 247 wickets at 23.29
    A: 141 wickets at 37.27

    Hell of a difference with Ntini!
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    Quote Originally Posted by zaremba View Post
    Steve Harmison's Test bowling average (for England)
    At Durham: 23.18
    In England: 28.28
    Outside England: 37.12
    Added him with cricinfo stats.

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    Quote Originally Posted by King Pietersen View Post
    Desmond Haynes

    H: 3868 runs at 56.05 with 10 Hundreds
    A: 3619 runs at 33.50 with 8 Hundreds
    added.

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    Anil Kumble must be a shout, particularly looking at his figures in home wins.

    Pietersen might be a shout.

    Mahela Jayawardene has to be in with a chance as well, his home batting average is in the mid 60s iirc.

    edit: not sure what his stats are like after touring New Zealand, but Harbhajan has been largely diabolical away from home, and epic at home - perhaps even more so than Kumble.

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    Laker
    135 @ 18.08 H
    58 @ 28.60 A

    GAR Lock
    104 @ 19.51 H
    70 @ 34.58 A

    Ntini
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    Trescothick - Home 51, Away 36.

    Better option that Hayden IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GingerFurball View Post
    Trescothick - Home 51, Away 36.

    Better option that Hayden IMO.
    Trescothicks away form "slump" isn't/wasn't completely down to talent though which is a shame since he was such a great attacking opener.

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    Does anyone want to do a list of the statistics of the top spinners from the subcontinent (Kumble, Qadir, Harbhajan, Prassana, Chadrasekar, Bedi, Muralidharan etc and add whoever else you want) inside vs outside the subcontinent (not just tehir home country).

    * I'm too lazy to do it myself tbph.

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