To be a successful fast bowler in Australia

[Craig]

With regards to FaaipDeOiad's (Fuller) post, if you are a fast bowler at Test level (and not Australian), what do you need to be successful, especially when you get away from wickets like the Test in Brisbane between Australia and New Zealand, and more on a wicket like Adelaide where it is a batting paradise.

So what sort of attributes would you need? Obviously pace (if you have it), but movement, height, bounce for me. But I'm not Goughy who is our expert on fast bowling (as well as Corey).

 

[Richard]

Right now, there's precious few who could do well, most of the pitches are just too flat and the ball (away from The WACA and SCG) doesn't swing enough. There's a few, the really accurate types, who might do well if their fielders' catching is up-to-scratch, Andre Nel did semi-decently with catches going down left-right-centre in 2005/06. But no more than that.

Of course spinners apart from a Warne or in-good-form Murali would struggle too.

 

[Flem274*]

Simple formula. Bowl accurately and try get a bit of swing/seam going. If there's nothing there, keep bowling accurately and as long as you're backed up by your field and have patience you'll fustrate them out.

That applies to all countries.

 

[Redbacks]

Get McGrath to back you in as a youngster

 

[Xuhaib]

To be a successful fast bowler in Australia ?

Change your name to Ishant.

 

[Redbacks]

(6 ball overs)       Mat    O       R   W   BBI    BBM     Ave  Econ    SR  5 10

in Australia           3  101     358   6  3/115  3/97   [B]59.66[/B]  3.54 101.0  0  0

 

[masterblaster]

It was more about the way he bowled as a young kid and the important wickets he got. His figures could've been so much better if a few correct decisions had gone his way, but that's how it goes sometimes. He's gone from strength to strength though as he proved against Australia in India.

 

[Xuhaib]

It was more about the way he bowled as a young kid and the important wickets he got. His figures could've been so much better if a few correct decisions had gone his way, but that's how it goes sometimes. He's gone from strength to strength though as he proved against Australia in India.

This.

 

[Craig]

Right now, there's precious few who could do well, most of the pitches are just too flat and the ball (away from The WACA and SCG) doesn't swing enough. There's a few, the really accurate types, who might do well if their fielders' catching is up-to-scratch, Andre Nel did semi-decently with catches going down left-right-centre in 2005/06. But no more than that.

Of course spinners apart from a Warne or in-good-form Murali would struggle too.

But if an Australian fast bowler can do well in Australia, what skill is it they have that an overseas fast bowler doesn't have or a skill that can't learn? It's not like they sit in the dressing room and shout weird chants to make the ball do anything it wants.

 

[Storer]

Balls on the stumps would be good, obv.

 

[Richard]

But if an Australian fast bowler can do well in Australia, what skill is it they have that an overseas fast bowler doesn't have or a skill that can't learn? It's not like they sit in the dressing room and shout weird chants to make the ball do anything it wants.

The main reason Australian seam-bowlers have done better in Australia than tourists is because the Australians have batted far better than tourists have. And, obviously, the fact that Glenn McGrath's better than most other bowlers who've toured.

There've been Australian seamers from the lower class who've been dismal failures at home too - Lee for most of his career, Williams, Bracken, Muller, etc.

 

[Uppercut]

It was more about the way he bowled as a young kid and the important wickets he got. His figures could've been so much better if a few correct decisions had gone his way, but that's how it goes sometimes. He's gone from strength to strength though as he proved against Australia in India.

Hardly makes him successful though. Try "how to be a bowler who bowls really really well without having success in Australia".

 

[aussie]

Unless the pitches improve, non-Australian bowlers will continue to struggle to down under.

Since that situation seems unlikely to change right i'd say, a foreign bowler if he is good like Steyn for SA ATM. He needs to be part of a strong all-round attack & hope to be the major beneficiary of an overall strong team bowling effort. Because i think back to 2004 when Akthar went through AUS top-order a few times, but the others being so crap could maintain his early pressure you would think if had an Asif & Gul to support him Australia would have had some real issues.

Or if the 2006/07 Ashes, if England attack would have contineud to build from the 05 Ashes, surely that series would have been MUCH closer with a Flintoff or a Jones benefiting from a undoubtebly strong all-round bowling effort.