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    Quote Originally Posted by NUFAN View Post
    Yeah McKay is definitely one to keep an eye on, Geeves is up there too.
    Can't agree with Geeves. He could pass in ODI's, but not test quality at all.

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    Can't see any reason why Nannes couldn't play for Australia if selected seeing as though Eoin Morgan switched to England.
    Yea, but i think Morgan like Ed Joyce before him had to qualify over a period of time.

    But then again he got picked for ENGs ODI team, only A month after representng Ireland. So i guess qualification rules only applies for test matches & not for associate team players. A bit confusing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pasag View Post
    Siddle would be second because of developmental reasons. He's seen as the future of the attack. Bollinger would be ahead of Nannes (talking Tests of course) and I think by getting selected Hilfenhaus has shown he's ahead of Clark though that can change pretty quickly and I think Clark is only one good match away from going right near the top.
    Well yea. But the reason i layed them out like that is well i'm not 100% looking long-term. Just the Ashes & the home summer vs PAK & hopefully a strong WI. But overall your right.

    On Bollinger ahead of Nannes. Well looking on what i've seen of them since SA where in AUS. I'd say Nannes should have played test cricket before Bollinger, even though Bollinger was in & around the squad for the majority of 2008.

    Given that i hadn't seen him bowl until the IPL, i am surprised not many of your Australia's weren't really calling for him to be picked in either format (except T20s). He could have been superb in the tests in SA i feel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NUFAN View Post
    Can't see any reason why Nannes couldn't play for Australia if selected seeing as though Eoin Morgan switched to England.
    Nannes could play for Oz tomorrow if selected. Playing for associates in full limited overs internationals doesn't affect qualification for test nations. Only thing it would mean is he couldn't play for Middlesex (or whichever county) as a non-overseas player, but then he hasn't returned this year anyway, for whatever reason.

    Like him a lot, actually. Swings it at pace and one of the more interesting blokes to play the game.
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    Fantastic info Brumby...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard View Post
    Vettori IIRR didn't disgrace himself early career.
    Daniel Vettori is a strange case. From 1997-2003, he was actually quite good. But then he entered a terrible form slump and has only really gone back to his best sporadically (Bangladesh excluded) ever since. Usually spinners improve as they age (or so the tale goes).

    Mushtaq Ahmed (who was excellent mid-career but mediocre to diabolical at all other times) and Stuart MacGill (who peaked before 2000) are other exceptions.

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    FTR...
    Johnson
    Lee
    Clark
    Siddle
    Hilfenhaus
    Bollinger
    Nannes
    Noffke
    Tait
    Magoffin
    McKay

    For one-day cricket, Bracken, Geeves and Bird should come into contention.

    FTR, this is my opinion, not the selectors.
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    Quote Originally Posted by morgieb View Post
    FTR...
    Johnson
    Lee
    Clark
    Siddle
    Hilfenhaus
    Bollinger
    Nannes
    Noffke
    Tait
    Magoffin
    McKay

    For one-day cricket, Bracken, Geeves and Bird should come into contention.

    FTR, this is my opinion, not the selectors.
    So you don't rate any of Australia's spinners? You don't rate Hopes for ODI's? Australia shouldn't have a spinner. Australia A shouldn't have a spinner. Australia B shouldn't have a spinner. 3 bowlers into Australia C shouldn't have a spinner.

    Not to mention ODI cricket. Australia, Australia A, Australia B and Australia C shouldn't have a spinner.

    Is this your opinion?

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    Thread is about fast bowlers...
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    Quote Originally Posted by GeraintIsMyHero View Post
    Thread is about fast bowlers...
    Yeah I was just testing you.

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    Johnson
    Siddle
    Hilfenhaus
    Clark
    Lee
    Bollinger

    After that isn't really important. That's just my opinion on it. Hopes and Bracken are high up the order for limited overs cricket.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jakester1288 View Post
    Johnson
    Siddle
    Hilfenhaus
    Clark
    Lee
    Bollinger

    After that isn't really important. That's just my opinion on it. Hopes and Bracken are high up the order for limited overs cricket.
    Why isn't it important?

    All it takes is an injury, retirement, loss of form and someone else will be going on tours with Australia, that makes it fairly important for mine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Athlai View Post
    Tait got a CA contract didn't he?
    He didn't initially, but Tait ended up getting a contract after Symonds lost his.

    Tait isn't really a realistic option for Test Cricket at this stage but he's in the mix for ODI and T20.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NUFAN View Post
    Why isn't it important?
    Because we won't go down that low very often.

    At the moment, we have an attack of Hilfenhaus, Johnson, Siddle and Hauritz.

    Johnson
    Siddle
    Hilfenhaus

    Clark
    Lee
    Bollinger

    The bolded players are the ones we are using. If we were using 4 quicks, then we would need another player after Bollinger. But with 3 players, in cover, and Watson and McDonald as well, we have plenty of bowlers.

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    Lee's not playing because he's injured. If he was fit he'd be 2nd in the pecking order, not 5th.

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