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    Boom-boom s/b up there. Tho he bats like a bozo, he creates a buzz with the box-office and boosts it's entertainment value

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    did Gilly start the whole walking thing? in a way... ? or was it around before

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    Thought the Poms used Botham as a hard hitting opener in ODIs as far back as 86-87 tbh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Laurrz View Post
    so who would be more responsible for keepers having to be a good batsman.. GIlly or Sanga ? equal?
    Alan Knott, Kiran More, Stewart. Moin Khan and Hashan Tillekaratne all say "We've batted well before Gilly, Sanga or Andy"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Migara View Post
    Alan Knott, Kiran More, Stewart. Moin Khan and Hashan Tillekaratne all say "We've batted well before Gilly, Sanga or Andy"
    yea true i suppose.. but they didnt really take it to the level we see now

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    Quote Originally Posted by Migara View Post
    Alan Knott, Kiran More, Stewart. Moin Khan and Hashan Tillekaratne all say "We've batted well before Gilly, Sanga or Andy"
    Only Alec Stewart of those is a bloke you'd have in the side on his batting alone whilst 'keeping (Tillikeratne only really cemented his place in the side as a batsman alone when he gave up the gloves). That's what we're talking about here. There have always been 'keepers who, on their day, would bat relatively well. You wouldn't, however, rely on it as part of batting the gamplan to the same degree as the Aussies would have with Gilchrist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Burgey View Post
    Thought the Poms used Botham as a hard hitting opener in ODIs as far back as 86-87 tbh.
    Don't forget Wayne Phillips, who scored at a high run rate for the time, opened the batting in ODI in the mid 80's. Phillips is the one who changed the wicketkeeper to batsman mould.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrew Pollock View Post
    Don't forget Wayne Phillips, who scored at a high run rate for the time, opened the batting in ODI in the mid 80's. Phillips is the one who changed the wicketkeeper to batsman mould.
    Maybe. Sadly though, he wasn't particularly good at either.

    IIRC he went out to bat once vs Zimbbwe wearing a walkman, which was pretty cool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Burgey View Post
    Maybe. Sadly though, he wasn't particularly good at either.

    IIRC he went out to bat once vs Zimbbwe wearing a walkman, which was pretty cool.
    Picked as as batsmen (R Marsh was WK) and scored 150 on his debut

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrew Pollock View Post
    Picked as as batsmen (R Marsh was WK) and scored 150 on his debut
    I know - I watched him score it.

    Was mostly a one-test wonder though. I agree he sure could play some blistering shots. Especially on the cut - iirc he square cut Garner for 6 at the SCG once.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Burgey View Post
    I know - I watched him score it.

    Was mostly a one-test wonder though. I agree he sure could play some blistering shots. Especially on the cut - iirc he square cut Garner for 6 at the SCG once.
    I think that was Kepler Wessells

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    Quote Originally Posted by subshakerz View Post
    What about Saqlain, for inventing the doosra?
    They have Bosanquet on the list for the googly. The doosra is merely the fingerspin equivalent of the googly. It didn't have the revolutionary impact on cricket overall as the googly did. (ie. not saying its better or worse, but its simply a different way to achieve the same effect as the googly, some 60-80 years later).

    With regard to Lloyd, it was Armstrong IIRC who introduced the concept of opening the bowling with your fastest bowlers (MacDonald and Gregory). Prior to that, it had been the practice to open with your best bowlers, regardless of what speed they bowled.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrew Pollock View Post
    I think that was Kepler Wessells
    You reckon? I mean, I think I remember Kepler lifting a drive once but hitting 6's? Find it difficult to believe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Top_Cat View Post
    You reckon? I mean, I think I remember Kepler lifting a drive once but hitting 6's? Find it difficult to believe.
    That is what made it so memorable.

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    Opening ODIs with spin, most likely Martin Crowes idea, I just wanted the most average player to be mentioned.

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