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Indian Premier League

masterblaster

International Captain
The Bangalore Challengers' lineup? Here's a slightly different version of what's expected:
  • Praveen Kumar (RM)
  • Wasim Jaffer
  • Kallis (RM)
  • Dravid
  • Ross Taylor
  • Arun Kumar
  • Kohli
  • Boucher (WK)
  • Kumble (LBG)
  • Steyn (RF)
  • Zaheer (LFM)
There's a chance for Bracken replacing Kumar and Chanderpaul replacing Taylor and opening. Bracken may also replace Steyn, who may be a target for quick-scoring batsmen. Kumar being an opener and also a frontline bowler will make him a critical player in this team, but this 50-for-no-loss-after-20-overs lineup is the wrong team for this fiery daredevil from Meerut.
Need Cameron White in the side instead of Ross Taylor. White's a phenomenal T20 batsman and will be really handy in India with his leg breaks as well. I don't know how you can't have him in the side. In T20 cricket, he's a much better choice than Ross Taylor.
 

masterblaster

International Captain
Punjab Kings? Really short of ideas, but not short of options for a playing XI.
  • James Hopes (RM)
  • Karan Goel
  • Kumar Sangakkara (WK)[*]Mahela
  • Yuvraj
  • Tanmay
  • Irfan (LMF)
  • Chawla (LBG)
  • Powar (OB)
  • Brett Lee (RF)
  • Sreesanth (RFM)
Looks a very strong, versatile team. Mills may make the team as a bowler, replacing Powar, but for that, you'd have to replace James Hopes or one of the Lankans with a local. Uday Kaul is also a wicketkeeper, but replacing Sangakkara would be absolutely dumb. Besides, he's also only a part-time keeper. Even if Hopes is replaced, you may have non-regulars like Sanga or Kaul or Irfan opening the innings, but that's better than having someone whose batting has gone to sleep and fielding weaknesses have shown up lately. Strong title contenders.
That team looks fantastic on paper. They are suspect at the top of the order though as I've always doubted James Hopes' ability with the bat, especially as an opener. But it is T20 cricket so it might suit Hopes.
 

duffer

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
That team looks fantastic on paper. They are suspect at the top of the order though as I've always doubted James Hopes' ability with the bat, especially as an opener. But it is T20 cricket so it might suit Hopes.
Even if the openers fail that team bat so far down that it shouldn't hurt them too much. Looks very well constructed I must say. Has all the bases covered well.
 

masterblaster

International Captain
Even if the openers fail that team bat so far down that it shouldn't hurt them too much. Looks very well constructed I must say. Has all the bases covered well.
Absolutely, they would be the favourites alongside Chennai with Hyderabad coming in as the other contender. But I'm loving this Bangalore side and I think I'll be supporting them through this.

Dravid, Kallis and Jaffer alongside Cameron White. What's not to like. :)
 

Mr Mxyzptlk

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This would be a better Chennai XI-
  • Hayden
  • Aniruddha
  • Badrinath
  • Raina
  • Hussey
  • Dhoni (WK)
  • Oram (RM)
  • Ashwin (OB)
  • Tyagi (RM)
  • Muralitharan (OB)
  • Balaji (RMF)
This will be a slightly warped lineup, especially when Ntini, Fleming and Albe Mørkel have to sit out.
Wouldn't rather have Albie in ahead of Oram? Considering that Albie has actually shown that he can bowl effectively in T20. Both can hit the ball a long way.
 

Arjun

Cricketer Of The Year
Wouldn't rather have Albie in ahead of Oram? Considering that Albie has actually shown that he can bowl effectively in T20. Both can hit the ball a long way.
That's a tough one. I haven't seen much of Albie to comment on his bowling, though he seems a sticky, wicket-to-wicket medium pacer. If he's reasonably better than Oram, he may make the team. This is, after all, a tough team to put together, when you already have Fleming and Ntini on the bench.
 

Arjun

Cricketer Of The Year
Yeah Vijay is far better then the other three TN openers in the squad. But I think the fact that the other three are under 22, had more to do with their selection then performance.
Surprising. After all, the people who selected (bid for) the players are not Board officials, but businessmen, and the Chennai team is owned by a local.
 

Arjun

Cricketer Of The Year
I can see Mumbai going like this:

1. Tendulkar
2. Jayasuriya
3. Rahane
4. Uthappa
5. Loots Bosman
6. S Tiwary
7. Pinal Shah
8. Pollock
9. Harbhajan
10. Malinga
11. Fernando/Nehra
Easy one to assemble. That said, you can consider replacing Bosman with Dilhara, and you'd have a five-man bowling attack, with four seamers and Harbhajan. To stretch that batting lineup, one bowler may be replaced with Abhishek Nayar, but a strong and under-rated lineup it is.
 

Manee

Cricketer Of The Year
Easy one to assemble. That said, you can consider replacing Bosman with Dilhara, and you'd have a five-man bowling attack, with four seamers and Harbhajan. To stretch that batting lineup, one bowler may be replaced with Abhishek Nayar, but a strong and under-rated lineup it is.
'Tis a strong team. Loots Bosman has a good T20 batting record as does Dilhara Fernando have a good T20 bowling record. Nayar has been in good agressive form this season with the bat. Mumbai are the favourites for me.
 

ramkumar_gr

U19 Vice-Captain
Yeah Vijay is far better then the other three TN openers in the squad. But I think the fact that the other three are under 22, had more to do with their selection then performance. Mukand missed out on the One Day leg of season due to being in the Under 19 squad and an injury. But he was preferred to Aniruddha for most of FC season scoring 403 runs @ 50. Even when he unaviable Anirudda wasn't the first always selected for TN. As I said I don't know much about Tyagi, but his FC record is very good
agreed. Vijay is the no.1 opener in TN right now.... Anirudda is rubbish.. Thought IPL would be a great leveller, but seeing Arjun Yadav, Anirudda making the grades really disappoint me.... :@
 

Jungle Jumbo

International Vice-Captain
I think a lot of people here (Arjun especially) are favouring playing specialist Indian openers and top-order players ahead of some of the internationals. They'll be facing world class pace bowling here, not the usual 75mph stuff that you see in the Ranji. Pollock is likely to be up the order at four or five, not down at eight.
 

Arjun

Cricketer Of The Year
I think a lot of people here (Arjun especially) are favouring playing specialist Indian openers and top-order players ahead of some of the internationals. They'll be facing world class pace bowling here, not the usual 75mph stuff that you see in the Ranji. Pollock is likely to be up the order at four or five, not down at eight.
If you've been looking at my teams, I've favoured specialist Indian openers over pinch-hitters, middle-order batsmen and wicketkeepers at the top of the order. These openers will also benefit a lot more by facing world class pacers.
 

ret

International Debutant
This would be a better Chennai XI-
  • Hayden
  • Aniruddha
  • Badrinath
  • Raina
  • Hussey
  • Dhoni (WK)
  • Oram (RM)
  • Ashwin (OB)
  • Tyagi (RM)
  • Muralitharan (OB)
  • Balaji (RMF)
This will be a slightly warped lineup, especially when Ntini, Fleming and Albe Mørkel have to sit out. Tyagi may make the team as a fourth seamer, while Jakati may edge out Ashwin, a better batsman, because he's a left-arm spinner, providing variation. Putting together a lineup from this will be tough.

A combination for Deccan Chargers will be even tougher-
  • Ravi Teja
  • Gilchrist (WK)
  • Laxman
  • Gibbs
  • Symonds (RM)
  • Venugopal
  • Rohit Sharma
  • Vaas (LMF)
  • Ojha (SLA)
  • RP Singh (LFM)
  • Kalyankrishna (RM)
Predictably, Afridi had to sit out for this lineup. Zoysa would anyway warm the benches and only cover for Vaas. Styris and Silva have slimmer chances of making this team. One of them may have a chance only if Gilchrist is replaced by Halladar Das, which will be next-to-impossible.
in my line up,

for Chennai, I would have Hussey, Dhoni and Oram bat higher than Aniruddha & Badrinath

for Hybad, Gibbs would open with Gilly, instead of Teja .... Rohit would bat higher up as well, along with Symmo

you would want to give these gives more overs
 

Jungle Jumbo

International Vice-Captain
If you've been looking at my teams, I've favoured specialist Indian openers over pinch-hitters, middle-order batsmen and wicketkeepers at the top of the order. These openers will also benefit a lot more by facing world class pacers.
Benefitting Indian openers does not equal winning matches though... this is Twenty20 cricket, you can bat a middle-order player right at the top with little side-effects. There is an element of innings-building, but I'd have no problem with a middle-order bat opening up. In the English game, the likes of Stuart Law, Cameron White (to name but two) have been very successful openers, yet are usual middle-order players in the longer forms of the game.
 

ret

International Debutant
Benefitting Indian openers does not equal winning matches though... this is Twenty20 cricket, you can bat a middle-order player right at the top with little side-effects. There is an element of innings-building, but I'd have no problem with a middle-order bat opening up. In the English game, the likes of Stuart Law, Cameron White (to name but two) have been very successful openers, yet are usual middle-order players in the longer forms of the game.
agree with that^ .... you have to use the resources in the best possible way that helps the team
 

Arjun

Cricketer Of The Year
What is the status of the West Indians? That would make the Kolkata Knightriders a bit of a puzzle to put together. This is assuming Gayle does play, since he's a lot better than his replacement.
  • Ganguly
  • Gayle (OB)
  • Chopra
  • Ponting
  • Pujara
  • Dave Hussey
  • McCullum (WK)
  • Agarkar (RFM)
  • Akhtar (RF)[*]Ishant (RFM)
If Gayle doesn't make it, Salman Butt or more probably Mohammed Hafeez may come in, and Chopra opens.

Eh, hang on, you can't put together a Kolkata team without five foreigners. They're unusually short on batting, especially local. Only Ganguly, Chopra and Pujara!
 
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Arjun

Cricketer Of The Year
Benefitting Indian openers does not equal winning matches though... this is Twenty20 cricket, you can bat a middle-order player right at the top with little side-effects. There is an element of innings-building, but I'd have no problem with a middle-order bat opening up. In the English game, the likes of Stuart Law, Cameron White (to name but two) have been very successful openers, yet are usual middle-order players in the longer forms of the game.
Would someone like Parthiv Patel be a better choice for opening? Because he's a wicketkeeper? He doesn't have the big shots. Likewise, Vaas isn't quite the opening batsman you need because he has no technique. When the options available are no better, it's better to persist with the specialist openers, who've been doing a lot better at the top. When there's a choice between Chopra and Ganguly, it's obvious that Ganguly gets to open, because Ganguly's a more proven choice. But when the options at hand are Vijay and Parthiv, it's not much of a difference, so Vijay may open, but Vijay isn't in the team, and Mukund, no mean pick, is the next best choice.
 

Arjun

Cricketer Of The Year
in my line up,

for Chennai, I would have Hussey, Dhoni and Oram bat higher than Aniruddha & Badrinath

for Hybad, Gibbs would open with Gilly, instead of Teja .... Rohit would bat higher up as well, along with Symmo

you would want to give these gives more overs
There's a danger to casting openers in the middle-order. They may not be in the right groove when facing slower bowlers with fields spread out, and may either scratch around too long or get out playing a rash shot. When there are few overs left, it's a far-from-ideal state for an opener to come in. Besides, apart from Ravi Teja, the only other options are Vijaykumar (seamer), Dar (keeper) and Arjun Yadav (no use), and foreigners beyond the foreign limit. For Chennai, maybe push down Badrinath and get Dhoni at four, but Oram is merely a late-overs charger, and that's where he may be used best. Likewise, a lot of Hussey's best innings have been late charges in the final overs. A less-explored option would be opening with Stephen Fleming (in place of Oram, getting in Joginder Sharma for that opener) or even opening with Oram or Hussey, but that's a risk.
 

ret

International Debutant
There's a danger to casting openers in the middle-order. They may not be in the right groove when facing slower bowlers with fields spread out, and may either scratch around too long or get out playing a rash shot. When there are few overs left, it's a far-from-ideal state for an opener to come in. Besides, apart from Ravi Teja, the only other options are Vijaykumar (seamer), Dar (keeper) and Arjun Yadav (no use), and foreigners beyond the foreign limit. For Chennai, maybe push down Badrinath and get Dhoni at four, but Oram is merely a late-overs charger, and that's where he may be used best. Likewise, a lot of Hussey's best innings have been late charges in the final overs. A less-explored option would be opening with Stephen Fleming (in place of Oram, getting in Joginder Sharma for that opener) or even opening with Oram or Hussey, but that's a risk.
I look at 20T slightly differently than you do .... I would want the key players in as early as possible so that if one of them clicks a big total is on the cards, w/ others playing around that guy .... I would want to give a chance to play maximum overs to those who can make an impact .... the risk with opening with those locals is that the opposition could tie them up wrt RR which would mean more pressure on the other batsmen. and then there is little a guy like Oram can do in the last few overs

Strategically too, you would want to get a lot of runs in the first 6 overs, build [esp if you lose early wkts] in the middle 8 overs and then take the charge in the final 6

In case of Chennai with the 4 overseas players that you selected I would bat them in the following order:

- Hayden, Raina, Hussey
- Dhoni, Oram, the rest
 
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