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Thread: Why are there good tail-enders coming in now?

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    Why are there good tail-enders coming in now?

    Before ,say 80's,there was no such thing as a 'decent'tailender and these days Australia have totally responsible (well keep it at) tailenders.How?Where?

    Nd who is the best one?

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    The best tailender?

    Hard to say, really - if you're good enough, you're not a tailender at all!

    Suppose the only question that could be asked would be who's the best of those who play as specialist bowlers (eg, Ashley Giles did, Andrew Flintoff didn't).
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    Well, what position do you consider a tailender? Warne came in at eight. Kumble will come in at nine this match and he has a Test century.
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    Well tbh, these are all good tail enders and I find that they are very confident players ( sorry for spelling Harbrajhan wrong )Keep it going!

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    Quote Originally Posted by slowfinger View Post
    Well tbh, these are all good tail enders and I find that they are very confident players ( sorry for spelling Harbrajhan wrong )Keep it going!
    You spelled it wrong again.

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    Just do a cut-and-paste

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    I think there was actually some stats thing on cricinfo that showed that the averages from 8-11 haven't actually increased, much if at all, over the years. Could just be that teams care more about it these days, so the issue gets more attention.

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    it has to Anil Kumble.. the guy always counts his wicket.. the best tailender has to be the indians if they play Kumble, Harbajin Singh, Pathan and Zaheer Khan..

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    Quote Originally Posted by silentstriker View Post
    Well, what position do you consider a tailender?
    I consider someone a tailender based on their ability and performance, not the position they've batted in in a certain game.

    The number of specialist bowlers selected varies. Some specialist bowlers are tailenders - ie, rabbits (Philip Tufnell, Peter Such), some are bowlers who bat a bit (Robert Croft, Dominic Cork), some are bowling-all-rounders (Craig White, Andrew Flintoff). Sometimes, teams might pick eight-to-elevens with no genuine tail-enders (White, Cork, Caddick, Gough for instance), sometimes they might pick them comprised entirely of them (Sidebottom, Hoggard, Harmison, Panesar).

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Baconator View Post
    I think there was actually some stats thing on cricinfo that showed that the averages from 8-11 haven't actually increased, much if at all, over the years. Could just be that teams care more about it these days, so the issue gets more attention.
    It's such a hard issue to analyse, though. And lumping in players 8-11 is a bit of a furphy. I'd be very interested in 9, 10, and 11 analysed individually because I'd very surprised if there's been no improvement in 11's batting. A county-by-country analysis would be interesting. Aside from Glenn McGrath, I don't remember a batting bunny for Australia for a while and even he managed a Test 50.

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    McGrath wasn't a bunny at the time he scored his half-century, though - from about 2002 or so onwards he was actually relatively competant.

    Tait's no great shakes though is he?

    Bruce Reid's batting ineptitude was famous, though obviously he rarely played 4 Tests on the trot.

    Not sure about the likes of McDermott, Hughes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard View Post
    McGrath wasn't a bunny at the time he scored his half-century, though - from about 2002 or so onwards he was actually relatively competant.

    Tait's no great shakes though is he?

    Bruce Reid's batting ineptitude was famous, though obviously he rarely played 4 Tests on the trot.

    Not sure about the likes of McDermott, Hughes.
    Hughes highest score was 72 I think...he also scored at least one other 50.
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    Gillespie would have to be a shot for the title, a 200 and two (iirc) half-centuries.
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