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    Quote Originally Posted by Perm View Post
    There are other factors you have to take into consideration, not pure average.
    You said judge them on their output which is pretty hard to do in Richards case given he was (rightly) denied of playing test cricket

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    Quote Originally Posted by archie mac View Post
    About Richard?
    Well, yeah that too

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    Quote Originally Posted by Perm View Post
    There are other factors you have to take into consideration, not pure average.
    Like how they looked when you saw them play?
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    Quote Originally Posted by HeathDavisSpeed View Post
    I saw him play in some game over in Australia about 10 years ago. Can't remember the details, but it a veterans game and I think he scored a century. His batting looked sublime though - especially to someone who can't bat.
    Are you sure that was not G. Pollock?
    You know it makes sense.


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    Quote Originally Posted by HeathDavisSpeed View Post
    Well, then Barry Richards wouldn't count. If I judge them on their output, then why not just sort the statistics for players who've scored over 5000 runs by average. That'll give you your answer. (unless you are Richard)
    The thing with Richard is that he does have an extensive cricketing knowledge and knows alot about the game and its history. It's just he chooses output over all of that. The same can't be said about a few others...
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    Quote Originally Posted by archie mac View Post
    Are you sure that was not G. Pollock?
    Nah... Definately Richards. I wouldn't even know what Graeme Pollock looks like to be honest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fiery View Post
    You said judge them on their output which is pretty hard to do in Richards case given he was (rightly) denied of playing test cricket
    That's why I don't think people can rate Barry Richards, or George Headley for that matter, in the top 10 Test batsmen of all-time, simply because they didn't play enough. I know I don't, and I'd expect others to have some sort of criteria whereby the batsmen has to play a certain amount of games or score a certain amount of runs.
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    Yeah, I think you are thinking of Pollock, Heath. I remember watching that exhibition match too... but Richards was a great player too:

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    "The best batter I've ever seen. The first year I was in England I watched him knocking up before a game and the ball just zinged off the blade with natural timing. Playing Derek Underwood, a great bowler, he swept him where fine leg would be so they moved slip there and he played the next one where slip had been. They say that in South Africa he played an over using the edge of his bat. Watching him bat, I felt like I was in the presence of an artist"

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    Quote Originally Posted by pasag View Post
    The thing with Richard is that he does have an extensive cricketing knowledge and knows alot about the game and its history. It's just he chooses output over all of that. The same can't be said about a few others...
    I was actually more commenting on the fact that Richard doesn't like 'averages' as they include Bangladesh scores.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Perm View Post
    That's why I don't think people can rate Barry Richards, or George Headley for that matter, in the top 10 Test batsmen of all-time, simply because they didn't play enough. I know I don't, and I'd expect others to have some sort of criteria whereby the batsmen has to play a certain amount of games or score a certain amount of runs.
    People can rate players on simply how they look when they bat if they want, I guess

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    Quote Originally Posted by HeathDavisSpeed View Post
    Nah... Definately Richards. I wouldn't even know what Graeme Pollock looks like to be honest.
    Okay, I can't remember Richards being here 10 years ago, but I do remember Pollock playing with Lara, Chappell and Zoe Goss and smashing the bowlers all over the park

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fiery View Post
    Yeah, I think you are thinking of Pollock, Heath. I remember watching that exhibition match too... but Richards was a great player too:
    Nah, nah, nah. Definately Richards - he opened the batting with Haynes as I recall.

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    Quote Originally Posted by archie mac View Post
    Okay, I can't remember Richards being here 10 years ago, but I do remember Pollock playing with Lara, Chappell and Zoe Goss and smashing the bowlers all over the park
    No, this game was all veterans - no current players that I can remember. I only went as John Bracewell and Lance Cairns were playing - but Richards was a treat.

    My opinions on Bracewell have changed of late.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pasag View Post
    The same can't be said about a few others...
    Care to expand on this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HeathDavisSpeed View Post
    Nah... Definately Richards. I wouldn't even know what Graeme Pollock looks like to be honest.
    Richards would have been 52 10 years ago. Are you sure?

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