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    Quote Originally Posted by adharcric View Post
    60 in ODIs for me
    I would say 45, possibly 50 in ODIs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by adharcric View Post
    55 in tests, 60 in ODIs for me
    It'd be incredibly tough for him to average 60 in ODIs if he plays for another 2-3 years. Incredibly tough. He may end with a 50+ though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jono View Post
    It'd be incredibly tough for him to average 60 in ODIs if he plays for another 2-3 years. Incredibly tough. He may end with a 50+ though.
    Oh dear, I haven't checked his stats in a while now - was under the impressioon that he still had the 80/80 going. Revised ... 55 in tests, 55 in ODIs.

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    he's had very little time at the crease except for the last match (against WI)


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    I would like to see lack of overs to bat as a prime reason for his recent failures, but then isn't he the finisher it is the kind of situation that Huss has mostly come in the past and done well in.


    I think his main problem is he isn't too comfortable batting on slower tracks , remember he didn't had a great Champions Trophy in India either.


    He likes the ball to coming onto the bat at decent pace to time his shots properly IMO.

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    It's an inevitable part of batting at no. 6, really. When your side is batting well, then at times you're going to have a trot where you're required to throw the bat at everything in the late stages. Hussey was to an extente fortunate to get so many not outs in that situation earlier in his career (also obviously down to his skill in performing that role, too), and now he's having one of those little trots.

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    Quote Originally Posted by C_C View Post
    Hussey, if he has a long career ( ie, approaching 100 tests and 200+ ODIs), i would predict him ending up as a between 45-50 averaging test batsman and 35-40 averaging ODI batsman.
    Hahaha. Have you actually watched him bat or anything?

    Obviously he's not going to average 80 in both forms for his whole career, but Hussey's a remarkable batsman. He's not going to average under 40 in ODIs.
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    Hussey averaged over 90 in his last test series

    I see his test average being higher than his ODI one....

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    Quote Originally Posted by C_C View Post
    Hussey, if he has a long career ( ie, approaching 100 tests and 200+ ODIs), i would predict him ending up as a between 45-50 averaging test batsman and 35-40 averaging ODI batsman.
    I think he'd average around 50 in both forms.

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    Purely and simply, this had to happen sometime.

    I'm glad it may be, TBH - I didn't really want a Bradman-the-2nd-coming, nor did I want Hussey to supersede Bevan.
    Barring injury I believe he will supersede Bevan. MB did it over an extended period of time though so only time will tell really.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FaaipDeOiad View Post
    Hahaha. Have you actually watched him bat or anything?

    Obviously he's not going to average 80 in both forms for his whole career, but Hussey's a remarkable batsman. He's not going to average under 40 in ODIs.
    Yes i've watched him bat and he is a remarkable batsman. Just that 40+ happens to be the domain of GREAT ODI batsmen - the Laras, Tendulkars, Pontings,Gangulys, Inzamams of the world and Hussey is not THAT good. He had an amazing start but i think if he has a long career,he'd end up statistically in a tier just below the top bracket (ie, 45-50 in tests, 35-40 in ODIs). And i think that is a fair call because despite the kind of numbers Hussey's posted, i dont think he's done enough to say he'd likely end up in the alltime great zone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by C_C View Post
    Yes i've watched him bat and he is a remarkable batsman. Just that 40+ happens to be the domain of GREAT ODI batsmen - the Laras, Tendulkars, Pontings,Gangulys, Inzamams of the world and Hussey is not THAT good. He had an amazing start but i think if he has a long career,he'd end up statistically in a tier just below the top bracket (ie, 45-50 in tests, 35-40 in ODIs). And i think that is a fair call because despite the kind of numbers Hussey's posted, i dont think he's done enough to say he'd likely end up in the alltime great zone.
    Eh, you're welcome to your opinion I suppose. I doubt you'd find too many people who agree with you though. Nobody other than Bevan and Kluesener has matched Hussey's effectiveness as a finisher up to this point in his career, and he's probably the most adaptable ODI batsman I've ever seen, including Bevan, given his ability to hit out at the end of an innings.

    He's still got some things to do obviously, including simply maintaining his success for a longer period of time, but it'd take a stunning turnaround for him to average under 40.

    He probably hasn't played enough test cricket to judge properly yet. It'd be sensible to wait until after he tours the subcontinent next year.

    edit: I should add though, that I think he'll be a fantastic test player as well. He's got an amazing temprament and a solid if unorthodox technique, and can bat in virtually any situation. Hasn't really been tested against spin yet, that's all.
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    I don't think anyone can say that Hussey is finished, we all knew that his great form wasn't going to continue forever. I can see him averaging around 50 in both forms of the game, but I doubt he'll ever be considered a test great. The status as an ODI great would be easier to attain and I think he'll go down alongside Bevan as the best finisher in ODI cricket.
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    Has KP overtaken him in terms of ODI average now?

    Great player Hussey, but he is human after all. These things happen to every player, but I am positively sure he will go through an immense run of form again before long.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GeraintIsMyHero View Post
    Has KP overtaken him in terms of ODI average now?
    Nah, 58.63 for Hussey, 56.77 for Pietersen. Hussey's average has dropped 23 runs in his last 11 ODIs though, so Pietersen might move ahead soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeraintIsMyHero View Post
    Has KP overtaken him in terms of ODI average now?

    Great player Hussey, but he is human after all. These things happen to every player, but I am positively sure he will go through an immense run of form again before long.
    No Mike is still ahead.

    However, I must say talk about jumping the gun. My only concern with Hussey is when he fails when Australia really need him the most, not coming in to put the sword into sides which have already conceded either 250 or 300 runs.

    Rather off topic but...
    What's the chances of Mike getting an opening birth if either Hayden or Gilchrist call it a day? Would be a better choice than either a Brad Haddin or Phil Jaques IMO. That will then allow Watson to move up the order and Haddin could bat seven.

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