The return of Darrell Hair - well almost.

[Lillian Thomson]

The great man returns

 

[PhoenixFire]

Down to umpiring against Scotland............ Real shame, whatever his manner might have been, he was one of the very best as far as desicion making goes.

 

[silentstriker]

In terms of decisions, Hair is a good umpire. Turbinator, what are you talking about?

 

[Turbinator]

In terms of decisions, Hair is a good umpire. Turbinator, what are you talking about?

I have no clue...

Anyways, I agree in terms of decisions Hair was awesome, I actually kinda' wish he comes back.

 

[LA ICE-E]

darrel hair to be one of the umpire and people are make such a bid deal over it for no reason.
Darrell Hair was banned from being an umpire in the full member matches, he was not banned from anything else. So why is him being an umpire in the associate's tri-series a big deal? He was good enough to be an elite umpire but not anymore; as his discision about the ball tempering issue was proven wrong. He should still be allowed to be umpire in associate mathces. no big deal

 

[Neil Pickup]

Because, as Martin Williamson puts it on Cricinfo,

"This is a unique situation. The ICC could argue with any other official - including Hair's two colleagues also standing in Mombasa - that they were not quite good enough to make the transition from this level to the Elite. But that's not an issue or an excuse here. As an umpire, Hair clearly is good enough. So why can he stand here and not in more important matches? As with every aspect of this sorry episode, the ICC has failed to be clear or transparent in its handling and once more we can expect more smokescreens and sidestepping.

And so, while the Associates ponder just how important they are to the ICC, Hair, who arrives in Mombasa on Monday, is left yet again to face the media on his own."

 

[silentstriker]

Because, as Martin Williamson puts it on Cricinfo,

"This is a unique situation. The ICC could argue with any other official - including Hair's two colleagues also standing in Mombasa - that they were not quite good enough to make the transition from this level to the Elite. But that's not an issue or an excuse here. As an umpire, Hair clearly is good enough. So why can he stand here and not in more important matches? As with every aspect of this sorry episode, the ICC has failed to be clear or transparent in its handling and once more we can expect more smokescreens and sidestepping.

And so, while the Associates ponder just how important they are to the ICC, Hair, who arrives in Mombasa on Monday, is left yet again to face the media on his own."

Nothing to do with the ICC management. Speed made a case for him strongly at the members meeting. But he was voted out by a majority of the members (led by the Asian bloc).

 

[Craig]

Nothing to do with the ICC management. Speed made a case for him strongly at the members meeting. But he was voted out by a majority of the members (led by the Asian bloc).

So if you make a controversial call and get off side with the Asian bloc you are otherwise history?

 

[silentstriker]

So if you make a controversial call and get off side with the Asian bloc you are otherwise history?

Yes. If you make controversial call(s) and have a history against the Asian bloc, you are history.

Not that its necessarily right, but it has nothing to do with the ICC management as Neil suggested.

 

[Craig]

Yes. If you make controversial call(s) and have a history against the Asian bloc, you are history.

Not that its necessarily right, but it has nothing to do with the ICC management as Neil suggested.

Well then who runs world cricket, the ICC or the ACC? That said I'm not stupid to realise that they have four members (especially with India being so influential).

Although TBF this was to happen when you make such a big call like this unless you had 200% proof evidence, black and white, waterproof, idiotproof.

 

[silentstriker]

Well then who runs world cricket, the ICC or the ACC? That said I'm not stupid to realise that they have four members (especially with India being so influential).

Although TBF this was to happen when you make such a big call like this unless you had 200% proof evidence, black and white, waterproof, idiotproof.

I'm not disagreeing with you. I am just pointing out that the ICC management made a spirited defense of Hair during the hearing (from all accounts), and it wasn't the ICC management that was responsible for the removal of Hair. It was the full member countries.

 

[silentstriker]

In fact, I would go so far as to say that the ICC management are trying to embarass the asian bloc by even letting him officiate in any game. I can't believe that the Asian bloc is happy about that.

So if anything, the ICC management is standing firmly behind Hair and in the face of the Asian bloc.

 

[adharcric]

Although TBF this was to happen when you make such a big call like this unless you had 200% proof evidence, black and white, waterproof, idiotproof.

That's precisely the point: Darrell Hair made a big mistake and deserved punishment IMO.
Had the Asian bloc been in a minority, we would accuse the biased non-Asian bloc of saving Hair. Instead, we accuse the biased Asian bloc of screwing Hair. Politics.

 

[FRAZ]

It is a sick topic tbh .

 

[FaaipDeOiad]

Inexplicable really. If he's not good enough to umpire matches will full member nations, why set him loose on the minnows? And if he is good enough, why is he banned?

 

[adharcric]

Inexplicable really. If he's not good enough to umpire matches will full member nations, why set him loose on the minnows? And if he is good enough, why is he banned?

Exactly. Are you really surprised though?
There may have been genuine grounds to ban him but the real reason was simply because he was on the wrong side of the almighty Asian bloc.
As long as he stays away from them, they really wouldn't care whether he umpires at the highest level now would they?

 

[nightprowler10]

Don't quite agree with everybody saying he was a good umpire. He had been substandard for quite a while now, though I'll admit that at his peak he was one of the best. For the record, I thought his banning was a massive over reaction from the member nations. Sure he seemed to have a history against Asian nations, but that's really not true. He gave some harsh warnings and bad decisions against many teams.

 

[Richard]

To those less perceptive that Martin Williamson and those on here, it'll go down like a swig of water.

 

[LA ICE-E]

why is he umpiring the associates? because he's good enough. then why isnt he in the elite panel because thats his punishment for causing a huge incedent and being wrong at accussing a team at that for cheating. its not because he's not good enough but because of of the incedent which was wrong a wrong call so he's serveing punishment but the guy still deserves a job. simple

 

[silentstriker]

To those less perceptive that Martin Williamson and those on here, it'll go down like a swig of water.

Except, as I said earlier, Martin Williamson is wrong. It wasn't Speed and the ICC management that did it.