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Sreesanth and kumble miss out

Jono

Virat Kohli (c)
silentstriker said:
Kallis is going to laugh his face off
I've seen Kallis laugh once, and that was all the way back in late 2003 when the WI toured SA and some West Indian fielder fell on his *** to field the ball. It was ridiculously hilarious, but other than that, I don't think the great man can actually smile.
 

marc71178

Eyes not spreadsheets
Arjun said:
But what about Agarkar? How does he figure in nearly every series squad despite doing nothing except being very lucky? Looking at the little man, it doesn't take a Bob Woolmer or even a Sarfraz Nawaz to figure that he's not going to go places.
Oh yes, that last series in the West Indies was such a terrible effort, he must clearly be dropped (!)
 

marc71178

Eyes not spreadsheets
Arjun said:
Remember. This bowler has taken six wickets in an innings against England, a team that has had a world-class pace attack,
What relevance does England's pace attack have to his 6-wicket haul?
 

Arjun

Cricketer Of The Year
marc71178 said:
What relevance does England's pace attack have to his 6-wicket haul?
If they've got such a great pace attack, they may also be very good players of pace bowling. More often than not, that's the truth.
 

Arjun

Cricketer Of The Year
deeps said:
I think India need to make a stand with Agarkar, he's neither in nor out of the side. Seriously need to make up their mind. I'd throw him out now and develop a younger bowler. The one i'd go for is Sreesanth. Intelligent, good action so should avoid injuries more, good outswinger et.c
Better out than in. He's not one who can do much except crunch his average if he's lucky, then get settled in the side, then bowl utter rubbish in matches that matter.

The Indian selectors seem to be cowards. They finally get it right, drop the little man, partner a young bowler with an experienced bloke, but one or two bad matches mean that Agarkar comes back, bowls well, gets settled, bowls still more rubbish. This is why the Indians don't win tournaments very often.

While Sreesanth has shown more than a little promise, he too doesn't have height or body build on his side (though he's a lot faster and a little taller than Agarkar) so the selectors should always keep an option open for Munaf Patel or VR Singh. Patel's ODI figures are less than flattering, but we know what he can do in Tests, where every strike bowler proves himself, so there's absolutely no reason why he can't make the ODI side. VR Singh, though, should stay in India A for some time until he bags a bucketful of wickets and India A wins a few tournaments. RP Singh, though, seems to be a stock change seamer and is best suited to play as one.
 

adharcric

International Coach
Arjun said:
Better out than in. He's not one who can do much except crunch his average if he's lucky, then get settled in the side, then bowl utter rubbish in matches that matter.

The Indian selectors seem to be cowards. They finally get it right, drop the little man, partner a young bowler with an experienced bloke, but one or two bad matches mean that Agarkar comes back, bowls well, gets settled, bowls still more rubbish. This is why the Indians don't win tournaments very often.
You know, there was a time when I also believed that Agarkar was lucky and inconsistent. He used to pick up tail-end wickets and be rather expensive despite getting heaps of wickets. Now, take a look at his performance in the past 25 matches. An average of 27 and economy rate of 4.7 (which is quite good, career rate is 5.0 which is poor by the standards of the late 90s and early 2000s). Out of the 35 wickets he's taken, 25 have been of specialist batsmen and that excludes the wickets of guys like Razzaq, Vaas and Maharoof. He's not even 29 yet, he's experienced, he's athletic, he has a good arm and is a good fielder, and while he hasn't made runs of late, we know he has the ability to bat as well. He might be weak, but it doesn't show on the field because he has adequate pace (85+) and a good arm. Agarkar should definitely be in the one-day team for now.
 
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Anil

Hall of Fame Member
adharcric said:
You know, there was a time when I also believed that Agarkar was lucky and inconsistent. He used to pick up tail-end wickets and be rather expensive despite getting heaps of wickets. Now, take a look at his performance in the past 25 matches. An average of 27 and economy rate of 4.7 (which is quite good, career rate is 5.0 which is poor by the standards of the late 90s and early 2000s). Out of the 35 wickets he's taken, 25 have been of specialist batsmen and that excludes the wickets of guys like Razzaq, Vaas and Maharoof. He's not even 29 yet, he's experienced, he's athletic, he has a good arm and is a good fielder, and while he hasn't made runs of late, we know he has the ability to bat as well. He might be weak, but it doesn't show on the field because he has adequate pace (85+) and a good arm. Agarkar should definitely be in the one-day team for now.
all hail aa!!!
 

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