# 2 Opener between 1986-2006

aussie tragic · 22-08-2006, 10:51 AM

For people just joining this thread, we are aiming to pick the best XI over the last 20-years. To re-cap, the team will consist of 2 openers, 3 batsman, 1 allrounder, 1 WK, 2 pace bowlers and 2 spinners and only players that meet the following criteria during 1986-2006 can be nominated:

Minimum Tests: 20
Batting ave: > 40
Keeper's batting ave: > 25 and averaging at least 3 dismissal per test
Allrounder: batting ave > 20 and bowling ave < 35
Fast bowler: bowling ave < 30 and strike rate of < 60
Spinners: bowling ave < 35 and strike rate of < 75

The 1986-2006 World XI so far:

1. Matthew Hayden (LHB): 84 tests, 7326 runs, 53.08, 26 centuries, 26 fifties

Now onto the second Opener position:

Openers figures between 1986-2006

Anwar (LHB): 55 tests, 4052 runs, 45.52, 11 centuries, 25 fifties - - - as opener [3957 @ 47.10]
Boon (RHB): 95 tests, 6824 runs, 45.79, 20 centuries, 28 fifties - - - as opener [2447 @ 44.49]
Gibbs (RHB): 79 tests, 5728 runs, 44.40, 14 centuries, 22 fifties - - - as opener [5018 @ 50.68]
Gooch (RHB): 70 tests, 5873 runs, 45.52, 15 centuries, 29 fifties - - - as opener [5268 @ 45.41]
Haynes (RHB): 62 tests, 4253 runs, 44.30, 11 centuries, 19 fifties - - - as opener [4238 @ 44.61]
Jayasuriya (LHB): 105 tests, 6745 runs, 41.12, 14 centuries, 30 fifties - - - as opener [5752 @ 42.60]
Kirsten (LHB): 101 tests, 7289 runs, 45.27, 21 centuries, 34 fifties - - - as opener [5726 @ 41.79]
Langer (LHB): 100 tests, 7393 runs, 45.35, 22 centuries, 29 fifties - - - as opener [4809 @ 48.57]
Richardson (LHB): 38 tests, 2776 runs, 44.77, 4 centuries, 19 fifties - - - as opener [2770 @ 44.67]
Sehwag (RHB): 49 tests, 4066 runs, 52.12, 12 centuries, 12 fifties - - - as opener [3727 @ 54.01]
Sidhu (RHB): 49 tests, 3163 runs, 43.32, 9 centuries, 15 fifties - - - as opener [2891 @ 43.14]
Slater (RHB): 74 tests, 5312 runs, 42.83, 14 centuries, 21 fifties - - - as opener [5312 @ 42.83]
Smith (LHB): 48 tests, 3891 runs, 49.25, 11 centuries, 14 fifties - - - as opener [3659 @ 50.85]
Strauss (LHB): 30 tests, 2505 runs, 46.38, 10 centuries, 7 fifties - - - as opener [2505 @ 46.38]
Taylor (LHB): 104 tests, 7525 runs, 43.39, 19 centuries, 49 fifties - - - as opener [7525 @ 43.39]
Trescothick (LHB): 75 tests, 5825 runs, 43.79, 14 centuries, 29 fifties - - - as opener [5824 @ 43.78]
Vaughan (RHB): 64 tests, 4595 runs, 42.94, 15 centuries, 14 fifties - - - as opener [2755 @ 49.19]
Wright (LHB): 38 tests, 3019 runs, 45.05, 8 centuries, 14 fifties - - - as opener [2973 @ 44.37]

Armadillo · 22-08-2006, 10:58 AM

Anwar has been the most consistent performer even if his average doesn't show it.

aussie tragic · 22-08-2006, 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Armadillo

Anwar has been the most consistent performer even if his average doesn't show it.

I think his average is fine, I just can't decide if I should pick who the next best opener is (Anwar), or should I go with the next best RHB to give a L/R opening combination?

Edit: Sehwag it is.

Matteh · 22-08-2006, 12:08 PM

Sticking with Slats.

Tomm NCCC · 22-08-2006, 02:42 PM

Ive already explained my point of view on Strauss, which is why I vote for him

Neil Pickup · 22-08-2006, 02:54 PM

Looking for someone to open with Hayden? Well... It's gotta be Langer.

Pothas · 22-08-2006, 03:00 PM

going for Gooch

Armadillo · 22-08-2006, 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neil Pickup

Looking for someone to open with Hayden? Well... It's gotta be Langer.

He's got a point there.

NZTailender · 22-08-2006, 09:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matteh

Sticking with Slats.

Me too.

Mister Wright · 22-08-2006, 11:41 PM

Anwar for me. Gritty, Stylish and elegant.

JASON · 22-08-2006, 11:56 PM

Boon , considering the opposition he faced ie West Indian pace quartet .(+Ambrose/Walsh ) more than any others on seamier pitches.

oz_fan · 23-08-2006, 02:02 AM

Gooch for me

SJS · 23-08-2006, 02:38 AM

It was between Gooch and Haynes for me. I chose Gooch since he faced Windies and did well.

Haynes, did better against Australia by the way.

aussie · 23-08-2006, 03:13 AM

Best Australian partner - Slater
Best Overseas partner - Anwar

Matteh · 23-08-2006, 03:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JASON

Boon , considering the opposition he faced ie West Indian pace quartet .(+Ambrose/Walsh ) more than any others on seamier pitches.

We've already established that Boon shouldn't really be considered as an opener..

22-08-2006, 10:51 AM	#1 (permalink)
aussie tragic International Debutant Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Australia Posts: 2,255	# 2 Opener between 1986-2006 For people just joining this thread, we are aiming to pick the best XI over the last 20-years. To re-cap, the team will consist of 2 openers, 3 batsman, 1 allrounder, 1 WK, 2 pace bowlers and 2 spinners and only players that meet the following criteria during 1986-2006 can be nominated: Minimum Tests: 20 Batting ave: > 40 Keeper's batting ave: > 25 and averaging at least 3 dismissal per test Allrounder: batting ave > 20 and bowling ave < 35 Fast bowler: bowling ave < 30 and strike rate of < 60 Spinners: bowling ave < 35 and strike rate of < 75 The 1986-2006 World XI so far: 1. Matthew Hayden (LHB): 84 tests, 7326 runs, 53.08, 26 centuries, 26 fifties Now onto the second Opener position: Openers figures between 1986-2006 Anwar (LHB): 55 tests, 4052 runs, 45.52, 11 centuries, 25 fifties - - - as opener [3957 @ 47.10] Boon (RHB): 95 tests, 6824 runs, 45.79, 20 centuries, 28 fifties - - - as opener [2447 @ 44.49] Gibbs (RHB): 79 tests, 5728 runs, 44.40, 14 centuries, 22 fifties - - - as opener [5018 @ 50.68] Gooch (RHB): 70 tests, 5873 runs, 45.52, 15 centuries, 29 fifties - - - as opener [5268 @ 45.41] Haynes (RHB): 62 tests, 4253 runs, 44.30, 11 centuries, 19 fifties - - - as opener [4238 @ 44.61] Jayasuriya (LHB): 105 tests, 6745 runs, 41.12, 14 centuries, 30 fifties - - - as opener [5752 @ 42.60] Kirsten (LHB): 101 tests, 7289 runs, 45.27, 21 centuries, 34 fifties - - - as opener [5726 @ 41.79] Langer (LHB): 100 tests, 7393 runs, 45.35, 22 centuries, 29 fifties - - - as opener [4809 @ 48.57] Richardson (LHB): 38 tests, 2776 runs, 44.77, 4 centuries, 19 fifties - - - as opener [2770 @ 44.67] Sehwag (RHB): 49 tests, 4066 runs, 52.12, 12 centuries, 12 fifties - - - as opener [3727 @ 54.01] Sidhu (RHB): 49 tests, 3163 runs, 43.32, 9 centuries, 15 fifties - - - as opener [2891 @ 43.14] Slater (RHB): 74 tests, 5312 runs, 42.83, 14 centuries, 21 fifties - - - as opener [5312 @ 42.83] Smith (LHB): 48 tests, 3891 runs, 49.25, 11 centuries, 14 fifties - - - as opener [3659 @ 50.85] Strauss (LHB): 30 tests, 2505 runs, 46.38, 10 centuries, 7 fifties - - - as opener [2505 @ 46.38] Taylor (LHB): 104 tests, 7525 runs, 43.39, 19 centuries, 49 fifties - - - as opener [7525 @ 43.39] Trescothick (LHB): 75 tests, 5825 runs, 43.79, 14 centuries, 29 fifties - - - as opener [5824 @ 43.78] Vaughan (RHB): 64 tests, 4595 runs, 42.94, 15 centuries, 14 fifties - - - as opener [2755 @ 49.19] Wright (LHB): 38 tests, 3019 runs, 45.05, 8 centuries, 14 fifties - - - as opener [2973 @ 44.37] Last edited by aussie tragic; 22-08-2006 at 11:42 AM.

22-08-2006, 10:58 AM	#2 (permalink)
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22-08-2006, 02:42 PM	#5 (permalink)
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22-08-2006, 02:54 PM	#6 (permalink)
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View Poll Results: Who is the #2 Opener between 1986-2006 (to partner Hayden)
Anwar	16	21.33%
Boon	1	1.33%
Gibbs	1	1.33%
Gooch	10	13.33%
Haynes	0	0%
Jayasuriya	2	2.67%
Kirsten	4	5.33%
Langer	11	14.67%
Richardson	4	5.33%
Sehweg	16	21.33%
Sidhu	0	0%
Slater	3	4.00%
Smith	1	1.33%
Strauss	2	2.67%
Taylor	0	0%
Trescothick	2	2.67%
Vaughan	2	2.67%
Wright	0	0%
Voters: 75. You may not vote on this poll

22-08-2006, 03:00 PM	#7 (permalink)
Pothas Cricketer Of The Year Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Surbiton, UK Posts: 8,471	going for Gooch

22-08-2006, 11:56 PM	#11 (permalink)
JASON Cricketer Of The Year Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: At Work Posts: 7,558	Boon , considering the opposition he faced ie West Indian pace quartet .(+Ambrose/Walsh ) more than any others on seamier pitches.

23-08-2006, 02:02 AM	#12 (permalink)
oz_fan International Regular Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 3,977	Gooch for me

23-08-2006, 02:38 AM	#13 (permalink)
SJS Hall of Fame Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Mumbai India Posts: 19,170	It was between Gooch and Haynes for me. I chose Gooch since he faced Windies and did well. Haynes, did better against Australia by the way.

23-08-2006, 03:13 AM	#14 (permalink)
aussie Hall of Fame Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Cricket Posts: 16,845	Best Australian partner - Slater Best Overseas partner - Anwar

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