Neil Pickup
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I was tempted to reply first up with "Swervy to be accused of Englishness in 5..4..3.." but opted to wait for the obvious to occur.Swervy said:
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The Freddie Flintoff 'Eat Your Words' Thread
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superkingdave
Hall of Fame Member
an i live only about 2 miles from Yorkshire, but its a world away 
superkingdave
Hall of Fame Member
OldhamSwervy said:
Langeveldt
Soutie
No..Swervy said:hehehe..c'mon Mr L, you know Flintoff is a better allrounder than Kallis
Flintoff is a better bowler than Kallis
Kallis is a better batsman than Flintoff
Both superb fielders..
That equals zero...
So there is no "eating of dust" involved, thank you for your time...
Shane Warne
Banned
Good post.Langeveldt said:
simmy
International Regular
Yes but Flintoff actually bowls... Kallis barely ever turns his arm over anymore.Langeveldt said:
As for LUCKYEDDIE... in a recent post of the "worst international players on the test circuit" you put the "entire England cricket team". Well done... you were spot on with that call.
As for my 'prediction'... well... I'm still convinced England will win. 
tooextracool
International Coach
that makes bradman the best all rounder ever.Langeveldt said:
kallis cant bowl, and the sooner people realise that hes rubbish the better.
Mr Mxyzptlk
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To quote Nibbs, lame.Shane Warne said:
Are we to discount all Australian batting brilliance due to the fact that they typically face teams with blatantly substandard bowling attacks? England hasn't had McGrath present for 25 years and they haven't used that as an excuse.
Australia has dominated world cricket for years now. They've been set back in a relevant Test match - a rare occasion. Can't you allow the English fans to feel some level of pride at this moment? It's surely only fair. Australia, to this point, has been outplayed overall.
So McGrath got injured - unfortunate. Half the England team was injured on the last Ashes tour...
Swervy
International Captain
zinzan..where are you...
zinzan the other day:
''It seems kind of ironic that after all the hype about the mighty "Flintoff" in the lead up to the ashes and the incredible talking down of Brett lee and his ability at test level that it is Lee that comes out of this First test with a good amount of credit as opposed to Flintoff whose performance was below par.
Admittedly its only the first test, but apart from out foxing Gilchrist, Flintoffs bowling in the conditions was disappointing. He went for around 5 an over in the 2nd innings. Not to mention his total of 3 runs in 2 innings with the bat.
I know its only early days in the series, but I can't imagine Flintoff's confidence is sky high, whereas I think Lee will only get more confidence.
Haven't heard much from the likes of Marc and TEC on Flintoff and Lee's performance so far, I'm interested to read their reactions
Whoops....almost forgot to mention the dolly Flintoff put down at slip and Lee's great caught and bowled.
Oh the irony !!! ''
This is the kind of thing I was talking about!!!!
zinzan the other day:
''It seems kind of ironic that after all the hype about the mighty "Flintoff" in the lead up to the ashes and the incredible talking down of Brett lee and his ability at test level that it is Lee that comes out of this First test with a good amount of credit as opposed to Flintoff whose performance was below par.
Admittedly its only the first test, but apart from out foxing Gilchrist, Flintoffs bowling in the conditions was disappointing. He went for around 5 an over in the 2nd innings. Not to mention his total of 3 runs in 2 innings with the bat.
I know its only early days in the series, but I can't imagine Flintoff's confidence is sky high, whereas I think Lee will only get more confidence.
Haven't heard much from the likes of Marc and TEC on Flintoff and Lee's performance so far, I'm interested to read their reactions
Whoops....almost forgot to mention the dolly Flintoff put down at slip and Lee's great caught and bowled.
Oh the irony !!! ''
This is the kind of thing I was talking about!!!!
cpr
International Coach
In all fairness i dont see how McGrath being absent can account for Flintoff's 6 wickets so far? unfortunatly i've not been able to catch most of the action due to work, but saying england are only winnign because McGrath isnt there is the biggest load of turd i've heard... Hayden and Ponting have both got a duck each, Gilchrist out for 1, Katich 20 in the whole match..... Either England have bowled well, or Australia have batted poorly.... either way McGrath being in the side wouldnt have affected either of them....
Flintoffs only scoring 6's because McGrath isnt playing? Why, is he too scared to smack them when McGrath is incase he gets told off? or does McGrath bowl every single ball in the match?
If your complaingin your behind because your only decent seamer is out, then get a better squad, simple really, its no excuse..... Sure you'll probably still win the ashes, because in general i think you are the better squad, but whinging when someone gets an injury is just petulance. Grow up
Flintoffs only scoring 6's because McGrath isnt playing? Why, is he too scared to smack them when McGrath is incase he gets told off? or does McGrath bowl every single ball in the match?
If your complaingin your behind because your only decent seamer is out, then get a better squad, simple really, its no excuse..... Sure you'll probably still win the ashes, because in general i think you are the better squad, but whinging when someone gets an injury is just petulance. Grow up
Mr Mxyzptlk
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Both. England's generally bowled better than Australia in this match. Both teams have played some rather ridiculous shots too. Hayden, Ponting, Warne are classic examples among the Aussies and Trescothick (twice!), Vaughan, Jones for England.cpr said:
Shane Warne
Banned
And if you add up their combined worth, it amounts to almost half of Mcgrath's.Mr Mxyzptlk said:
age_master
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since i saw his bowling in the ODI series i picked him as england best bowler, his batting is really not consistant enough for number 6, but when he does come of it is rather spectacular i must say
Shane Warne
Banned
It happened, but was pretty meaningless.marc71178 said:
It would be like England without Flintoff and Harmison.
The only difference would be that India would thrash you though if that were the case.