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    Who is better McGrath or Ambrose

    geeeeeeez, these two are magnificent the two best of the last decade or so, both similar in most ways, deadly accurate, ecominical, wicket-taking and both hae destroyed many a batting line.

    Who do you blokes think is better, its two hard for me

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    Quote Originally Posted by membersstand
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    why do you think so mate?

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    Great thread. Really difficult question. Tough one.

    I'd say Ambrose was slightly more accurate and more deadly at his best, but McGrath is wonderfully consistent and has had success everywhere around the world unlike a certain more celebrated colleague.

    On batting its a no brainer which reeks of irrelevance.
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    Too hard. Curtly was more mencing and was able to just flick aside batting line-ups on his day (both England and Australia know this one all too well!) but McGrath is just a champion who destroys batting lineups too. Curtly was a far more menacing prospect in general and probably bowled better than McGrath in helpful conditions. In non-helpful conditions, they are probably on par. McGrath is certainly bowling far better in his later years than Curtly did in his.

    Ideally, I'd have both in the side..............

    If someone pointed a gun at me and said "CHOOSE!", at their best, I'd go for Curtly on gut instinct. But wow, what a tough choice!
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    Quote Originally Posted by aussie
    why do you think so mate?
    I think Curtly was more naturally talented, and McGrath has had to work harder for his success. Curtly was faster and scarier, but McGrath has amazing control and can do almost anything with the ball

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    Quote Originally Posted by membersstand
    I think Curtly was more naturally talented, and McGrath has had to work harder for his success. Curtly was faster and scarier, but McGrath has amazing control and can do almost anything with the ball
    Ambrose's control was as good if not better, but he failed in the subcontinent unlike McGrath who has had success everywhere. If both on top form I would prefer Ambrose, but McGrath is for me the more consistent of the two.

    Set up a poll.

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    Very, very close. My personal feeling is that Ambrose is a better bowler in helpful conditions, where he was virtually unplayable. The third test in the 1995 series against Australia might be remembered mainly for Steve Waugh's amazing 63 and the photograph of him standing up to Ambrose when they had their confrontation, but Curtley was simply awesome in that game. Then there's his spell at Perth a couple of years earlier, which was one of the best I have ever seen.

    McGrath is better on flat pitches in my opinion, where he is one of the best ever. He also seems to be adding more strings to his bow as he gets older, while Curtley didn't have quite the longevity. I rate McGrath a touch higher, with the gap opening up a bit more the longer McGrath goes on and the better he gets.

    Agreed with Corey though, I'd want both in my side.
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    I'd go for Curtly when looking for a bit of menace to go along with wicket taking ability, if it was purely wickets I was after then maybe McGrath. Curtly always looked more destructive when wreaking havoc, but McGrath is uncannily effective.

    The largest difference in their career stats (McGrath 109 matches to Curtly 98) is SR with McGrath at 51.1 to Curtly 54.57, average and economy are within .3 of each other.

    In short, I'm off to hospital now to get a fence paling removed from my backside - I can't decide one way or the other.
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    Yeah this one is just like Warne vs Murali.

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    i think both were equally has good in most conditions and most surfaces around the world except the sub-continent (India) where McGrath has been excellent and where Ambrose has hardly bowled in his career, but McGrath for sure has bowled much better has he has get older. I for one give pigeon the edge, but only by a wisker

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    I think you should have compared courtney walsh with mcgrath,walsh was much more deadlier then ambrose when he was in form.
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    On purely emotional reasons, I would go for Curtly. I used to get genuinely excited when he took his jersey off to start a new spell (or his sweatbands, in Dean Jones' case). McGrath is a bowler who, I feel, is more likely to take wickets two or three overs into a new spell after wearing the batsman down, whereas Curtly was more likely to send down an absolute snorter the second ball into his spell.

    Just my thoughts, and if anyone tries to bring up stats to dispute that, I have the right to ignore them.


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    For the sake of comparison...

    McGrath
    Matches 109
    Wickets 499
    WPM 4.58
    Average 21.23
    SR 51.12
    Eco 2.49
    5WI 26
    10WM 3
    MotM Awards 10

    Ambrose
    Matches 98
    Wickets 405
    WPM 4.13
    Average 20.99
    SR 54.58
    Eco 2.31
    5WI 22
    10WM 3
    MotM Awards 14


    And just for the hell of it in case anyone is including them, ODI stats.
    McGrath
    Matches 205
    Wickets 315
    Average 22.05
    SR 34.16
    Eco 3.87
    4WI 16
    MotM Awards 11

    Ambrose
    Matches 176
    Wickets 225
    Average 24.13
    SR 41.57
    Eco 3.48
    4WI 10
    MotM Awards 5

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    Quote Originally Posted by Top_Cat
    Yeah this one is just like Warne vs Murali.

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