Andrew Symonds

[Prince EWS]

Yes, but in another situation, it would be much more valuable to score slowly.

So really, the pace at which a batsman scores should not effect his selection.

 

[vic_orthdox]

i'm not arguing for his point. im just making sure that your able to argue against him properly and that you understand his argument.

 

[vic_orthdox]

Yes, but in another situation, it would be much more valuable to score slowly.

So really, the pace at which a batsman scores should not effect his selection.

in test match cricket.

and anyhow, simon katich has displayed in List A and First Class cricket that he is able to score at a fair clip - not as quickly as symonds - and is not what one would regard as a "slow" batsman.

 

[marc71178]

I never like to compare Test-match innings with ODI innings.
Totally different games.

Except the examples Mr Casson asked were both in a Test.

 

[marc71178]

No-one will ever score 250 off 50 overs to win a Test-match - you mark my words.

I think that was a very silly thing to say...

 

[The Baconator]

england made 205 off 37 overs in the last innings once against zimbabwe and maybe could have made it 250 off 50 so it isn't a total impossibility

 

[Steulen]

No-one will ever score 250 off 50 overs to win a Test-match - you mark my words.

That's 5 an over, hardly a run more than Australia scores on average. No problem then. A good big opening partnership and you're on.

 

[Crazy Sam]

(over a sustained period against good opposition)

where's this good opposition you speak of?? :S hopefully we get some decent opposition this year...

 

[Eclipse]

No-one will ever score 250 off 50 overs to win a Test-match - you mark my words.

why not ? simular things have happend many time's in FC cricket..

I remember Andrew Symonds And Martin Love chasing down 300 or so at over 6 runs an over to win for Queensland a few seasons ago.

Australia score at 4.5 runs per over during a normal days batting on many occasions, Can you seriously tell me that if Ponting and Gilchrist got going the batting team could restrict them in a run chase..

The amount of 150 + partneships Gilly has been involved in that are over 6 an over in test cricket proves in my mind that it's very possible.

Also when you think about it if the team has only 50 overs to chase 250 then the chances are the pitch is still holing up very well...

 

[Dasa]

No-one will ever score 250 off 50 overs to win a Test-match - you mark my words.

Forgotten about this one then?
Not quite 250 off 50 overs, more like 344 off 66.1...close enough?

 

[tooextracool]

dont worry, he'll come up with a new and improved way to wriggle his way out of this one too.

 

[Eclipse]

Current Gilly Ponting Partnership: 147 runs, 28.2 overs, RR: 5.19

No chances given.. kinda shows it's not imposible to score that fast at test level.

 

[Eclipse]

Infact Australia are going along at 4.41 and have 465/5 atm..

 

[Crazy Sam]

and gilchrist went from 82 to 105 in about 8 balls!

 

[marc71178]

To be fair though, when are Australia likely to be in that situation?!

 

[Mister Wright]

Current Gilly Ponting Partnership: 147 runs, 28.2 overs, RR: 5.19

No chances given.. kinda shows it's not imposible to score that fast at test level.

But it is not in the last innings to win a test match.

 

[Richard]

Except the examples Mr Casson asked were both in a Test.

Which was not demonstrated very well.

 

[Richard]

I think that was a very silly thing to say...

I'll be happy to admit I'm wrong if it ever happens.
Can you honestly see it?

 

[Richard]

england made 205 off 37 overs in the last innings once against zimbabwe and maybe could have made it 250 off 50 so it isn't a total impossibility

True, thanks mainly to a quite astonishing innings by Nick Knight.
Nonetheless, it didn't happen (despite the "we flippin' murdered 'em") and I'll be amazed if anyone else comes close in the near future, let alone manages it.

 

[Richard]

Current Gilly Ponting Partnership: 147 runs, 28.2 overs, RR: 5.19

No chances given.. kinda shows it's not imposible to score that fast at test level.

It's not impossible, no - but delaying tactics would be used far more were it to be a fourth-innings run-chase.