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    The ‘Cricket in the 1970s’ doco is excellent as it not only contains great footage and interviews (with several who have since passed on) but had an overall narrative of the growing resentment the players had towards how the ACB was treating them which made WSC almost feel inevitable.

    The ‘Cricket in the 1980s’ doco is not quite as good, just basically a potted nostalgia trip of Australian cricket in the 1980s with no real underlying perspective and narrative and as S. Kennedy says, rather sycophantic towards Kerry Packer & WSC. Still worth watching though.

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    It seems to be regimented that every single World Series Cricketer says ''World Series Cricket was the greatest cricket they'd ever played'' and basically the greatest thing since sliced bread.
    He (Alastair Cook) and his family are very much the sort of people we want the England captain and his family to be
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    What we are doing here is future-proofing county cricket
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    We want to make the game as simple as possible for them (mums and kids) to understand
    Andrew Strauss.

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    The way it’s presented now you’d think post-WSC it was all beer & skittles for Australian cricketers in the 1980s. But there was considerable dissatisfaction with the schedule they were given for a summer at the request of Channel 9 (quite a bit more arduous) than they get today. In the 1984/85 summer for example they played 16 ODIs (and could’ve played up to 18 if they’d made the final of the World Championship)!

    That was the backstory behind Greg Chappell’s underarm decision; he’d been basically worn down by the severely increased demands of the role as player and captain; it’s mentioned in a biography of Chappell done after his retirement but not even hinted at in the doco.

    Even with regards to money payments there were still issues post-WSC. After Australia’s 1989 Ashes triumph there was a major dispute between the players and the board over money payments for example.

    I’m not saying the 1970s setup where the players were paid a pittance was preferable, but the mindset now in cricket that WSC was 100% good and led to harmony and happy times for the players is totally correct either.

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    WSC was so good for players that a Rebel Tour could be got out of them.

    Another thing the W.S.C. did was demolish attendance at test matches:


    (From here, 13 March '09)
    "The London Fire Brigade Committee has decided to ignore a demand from the Corporation Workers' Union for the reinstatement of a fireman who refused to obey an order on the ground that it involved too great a danger to him. For ourselves we are surprised at the moderation of the Union. We should have expected them to insist also on a medal for life-saving being bestowed on the man."

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    Didn't that kind of coincide with a serious decline in Australian cricket generally
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    I very much doubt that was the case in the 1977-79 period.

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    My take was that Australian cricket took a full decade to recover from the tumult of WSC; probably the 1987 World Cup victory was the definitive turning point for Australian cricket.

    It wasn’t just the lost years of 1977-79, but the fallout and recriminations for years afterwards. The Hughes/Chappell captaincy issue the standout example and how Hughes was seen by WSC players as the establishment’s favourite. And then the Rebel tour ensured more years in the wilderness for Australia.

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    Yeah it did, because all the good players were in WSC.

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    But post-WSC, attendances still hadn't recovered by 2008, and the post-WSC recovery, before that drop after 84, was still not particularly high, still missing the draw-fests of the mid 60s. So it seems to have led to a systematic decline in attendance.
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    post-WSC ODI's were given prominence over Tests for probably 15 years. Kerry Packer's organisation PBL handled the marketing of cricket until the mid-1990s and they always put more effort into promoting ODIs over Tests. It was only when CA took back the marketing aspect of cricket that this changed and not entirely coincidentally, Test crowds started to spike again.

    Also in scheduling, ODI was treated as the main game over Tests. Not only would they dominate January, but they'd often be played on New Year's Day or even on Boxing Day on occasion; for example a couple of times in the mid-1990s the SCG Test was played in November while a ODI was played at the SCG on NYD. And the Australia Day long weekend was always defined by a triple-header in Adelaide.

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    Part of that was there was a lot more ODI Cricket being played for the first time. Only so much dough to go around for people and it was novel. Plus Australia was dross for a lot of the decade after the big three retired in early 84.

    Then from the mid-90s Australia reached number one and Warne came along. That coincided with tests becoming popular again.

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    BT must be sick of their lives right now, having out-bid Sky for a whopping sum and found in their possession two dead rubbers nobody will watch.

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    I think with Packer the cat was out of the bag in the sense that suddenly a lot of people - players, administrators, broadcasters - saw you can make a tremendous amount of money from this weird Victorian game of ours.

    It is unbelievable how the whole Packer thing is depicted through the lens of Grieg/Chappell propaganda. Following the rapprochement between Australian Board and Packer, Australian cricket was basically placed in the hands of PBL Marketing. The Australian players actually revolted against PBL Marketing who now had reduced the Australian Board to absolute servility to the extent that they could draw up fixtures and even (they at least attempted this) dictate team selections! This is completely forgotten about now amidst all the Packer hagiography. Basically the players became as annoyed with Packer as they were with the Board in the 1970s.
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    As strange as it was to see the post-match relegated to GEM, it was at least much less cringeworthy this time around, having dumped the "cameras in the dressing room" bullshit.
    do you think people will be allowed to make violins?
    who's going to make the violins?

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    Quote Originally Posted by S.Kennedy View Post
    I think with Packer the cat was out of the bag in the sense that suddenly a lot of people - players, administrators, broadcasters - saw you can make a tremendous amount of money from this weird Victorian game of ours.
    I'm not sure the players made a 'tremendous' amount of money at all. Otherwise the Rebel Tours and pay disputes wouldn't have happened. And that's only for Australians, I don't think anything really changed at all in England or other countries.

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