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    Quote Originally Posted by social View Post
    If England don't put up a fight here, it's going to be a really long tour for them
    Putting up a fight in Adelaide is actually symptomatic of an oncoming whitewash. If the past two incidents are what we are going on.
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    How much longer does England give Dawid Malan ?

    There is just something I can't quite like about him at test level. 6 matches and an average of 24.90 as a 30 year-old with a FC average of 37.

    I know it's harsh when Vince is there & Stoneman hasn't been amazing yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SeamUp View Post
    How much longer does England give Dawid Malan ?

    There is just something I can't quite like about him at test level. 6 matches and an average of 24.90 as a 30 year-old with a FC average of 37.

    I know it's harsh when Vince is there & Stoneman hasn't been amazing yet.
    I was really impressed with him in the first innings at Brisbane, up until his ill-advised hook shot, but I do know where you’re coming from.

    You’d think it’s unlikely that we’re going to see a man scoring runs consistently in Test cricket and most of his innings so far have looked a bit of a battle. But, as we know, good batting options are pretty limited for England at the moment so I guess it makes sense for the selectors to show confidence in him and maintain some continuity in selection.
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    “I agree, it can't hurt but I don't like a 1 test and done approach. I'm not sure if Overton brings anything Ball does...is he really that much quicker? They both have similar FC stats and performances from what I've seen. It still boggles my mind Porter didn't get a step in the squad. England's own fault for bringing the wrong guys along.”

    Both Jamie Porter & Toby Roland Jones would have been in my squad. Unfortunate that both have stress fracture injuries. Think they would have gone well. Also think Ben Foakes is an excellent cricketer who could keep wicket, bat at 7, which allows Bairstow to bat at 5. That’s dropping David Malan, who has done ok so far, but getting right handlers into the batting order to nullify Nathan Lyon who looks the most dangerous bowler on either side. We are terrible against spin. I think we could see off the pace bowlers. Bet we don’t chang3 anything!
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    Ball is a better bowler than Stokes imo.

    Was very surprised they picked Ball over Overton first test though. Ball barely had any game time due to injury. Doesn't say much for the management's faith in Overton. I know Overton is not express (with Ball quicker), but it had to be a kick in the teeth for Ball to get selected ahead of him.

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    Think Stokes is far more likely to get you a wicket than Ball.

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    Absolutely no chance Ball is a better bowler than Stokes at this level, not at all- the real question is if Mark Wood can prove his fitness because he's the only one with something else. Other main problem for England is Bairstow being wasted down the order, just feels like throwing away much needed runs with this top order and him sitting down there forced to play stupid shots because he's stuck with the tail and hurrying.

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    Bugger it,

    Crane and Wood for Ball and Woakes.
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    Wood really shouldn't be rushed back. Just as pedestrian as Ball when he's not fit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by S.Kennedy View Post
    Bugger it,

    Crane and Wood for Ball and Woakes.
    If you intend on ****ing up the team and losing 5-0 then makes sense. The fact that Crane is even in the squad is a complete joke.
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    I'm trying to think back to last year - wasn't there a lot less swing and seam movement in the evening than the year before? I seem to recall they left a fair bit less grass on the deck than the year before as the pink ball now holds up ok.
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    Wood is clearly different to the others, and in a way that would seem to suit conditions down under. He looks terrific early this summer against the Saffers and he'll add a lot if healthy. Crane on the other hand is definitely a weird one, especially with Rashid just sitting there. Also I wouldn't take out Woakes at this point just because he's better with the bat than any other option, at least until you can fix the top order somehow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MW1304 View Post
    Wood really shouldn't be rushed back. Just as pedestrian as Ball when he's not fit.
    Yeah some of people on here have been overly harsh on Wood (probably because of S.Kennedy) but having sat through innocuous spell after innocuous spell at Trent Bridge I don't want him anywhere near the side unless he is actually fit and bowling the sort of speeds he is supposed to be able to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marc71178 View Post
    If you intend on ****ing up the team and losing 5-0 then makes sense. The fact that Crane is even in the squad is a complete joke.
    We are already losing 5-0. Drastic measures are required.

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    I think it is 1-0.

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