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    Quote Originally Posted by Jono View Post
    You don't think Australia have batted worse this series than they did in 2013?
    Not even slightly. Watch a video of Lord's day 2 that summer. Swann took the worst 5 for ever and Aus were bowled out for 120 without asking anything of the bowlers
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jono View Post
    You don't think Australia have batted worse this series than they did in 2013?
    Yeah, I don't think we've bowled as well as 2013 either, although maybe I've just forgotten. I recall our bowling effort back then as being one of the reasons people were saying we hadn't been as bad as the score indicated. I also seem to recall us working out some plans to certain batsmen and executing those plans reasonably effectively during the 2013 Ashes. This series we've only really been settled in line and length in one test.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Son Of Coco View Post
    Yeah, I don't think we've bowled as well as 2013 either, although maybe I've just forgotten. I recall our bowling effort back then as being one of the reasons people were saying we hadn't been as bad as the score indicated. I also seem to recall us working out some plans to certain batsmen and executing those plans reasonably effectively during the 2013 Ashes. This series we've only really been settled in line and length in one test.
    2013 was basically just Ryan Harris though wasn't it. I don't remember the others being that good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Howe_zat View Post
    Not even slightly. Watch a video of Lord's day 2 that summer. Swann took the worst 5 for ever and Aus were bowled out for 120 without asking anything of the bowlers
    interesting. not sure i agree but 2013 is like a forgotten series in a way, seeing as they've all been so close together. Hard to remember anything specific other than Agar's innings in the first test really.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jono View Post
    You don't think Australia have batted worse this series than they did in 2013?
    Their last 2 efforts with the bat have been disgraceful but they were shocking at Trent Bridge in 2013 (2 jammy last wicket partnerships made that game close), abysmal 1st dig at Lord's and collapsed in a hilarious heap at Durham.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hazsa19 View Post
    That is rotten luck! Out of curiosity, how many Ashes matches since 05 you have really enjoyed from a neutrals perspective? I would guess Adelaide 06, Cardiff 09, TB and Durham 13... And that's about it? It's not like the Ashes was awash with competitive cricket pre 05 either.
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    You're confusing quality with exciting. The two of course aren't mutually exclusive, but periods of bad cricket can lead to great games/series.
    We've seen three matches in a row that were more or less decided (from a neutral persepctive that is a conclusion easier made, tbf) at the close of:
    -stumps day 1
    -tea day 1
    -lunch day 1
    Madness. Exhilarating. Magical. Netherlands have crossed the line in an unbelievable 13.5 overs.
    It's like watching a Gayle from each end. And when one Gayle gets out.. Another Gayle comes in...

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    They should have won the game at Durham in 2013. 100 opening partnership chasing 270 odd and then completely folded to Broad (recurring theme) with some abject dismissals.

    2013 was miles closer than this. Lords apart it's been 3 gubbings with Cardiff the only game of the three England wins not sealed by tea time on the first day.

    Also without rain Aus may well have won at Old Trafford.
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    When's been the last close Ashes Test?

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    Quote Originally Posted by vic_orthdox View Post
    When's been the last close Ashes Test?
    first test 2013?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jono View Post
    first test 2013?
    4th at Durham was close too.

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    5th was close too, albeit a bit manufactured

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    Quote Originally Posted by Howe_zat View Post
    5th was close too, albeit a bit manufactured
    The ultimate lose to win that was. Given the fact he would have lost if he hadn't cried like a girl.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OverratedSanity View Post
    2013 was basically just Ryan Harris though wasn't it. I don't remember the others being that good.
    I think a couple of the other bowlers at least maintained some consistency on occasions. I guess the difference this time has been wild inconsistency mixed with periods where bowlers like Starc took a bag of wickets pretty quickly...often both in the same period of play. I don't think the English batting is particularly strong though, which helps.

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    nah these ashes have been great. i love series where one of these ****s gets disemboweled and skulks off home.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stapel View Post
    From a neutral perspective, these Ashes suck
    I can assure you that, from an Australian perspective, they're not too hot either.
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