*Official* Road to 2013 Ashes - Page 63

sphynx · 22-03-2013, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by GingerFurball

Broad most certainly isn't ordinary in England.

He's nothing special.

Finn has good bounce but is too slow to be a real enforcer.

Pattinson will be the leading wicket taker and by a fair margin.

90mp/h outswingers with a bit of seam, perfectly suited to England I would of thought.

Flem274* · 22-03-2013, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by sphynx

Finn has good bounce but is too slow to be a real enforcer.

sphynx · 22-03-2013, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Flem274*

?

Your standards have dropped since Freddy and Harmison.

Pretty much all your quicks bowl low to mid 130's. Finn's the same.

If the pitch isn't helping out, they are pretty pedestrian.

Flem274* · 22-03-2013, 09:12 PM

You'e so wrong about so many things.

I've just been watching Finn and he's high 130s to mid 140s.

I'm also not English. Thank goodness.

sphynx · 22-03-2013, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Flem274*

You'e so wrong about so many things.

I've just been watching Finn and he's high 130s to mid 140s.

I'm also not English. Thank goodness.

The NZ guns are playing up then.

He's no quicker than Broad.

Backed up by the NZ commentators this morning.

Said whilst Finn has good bounce, lacks genuine pace.

Pothas · 22-03-2013, 09:27 PM

There are a fair few things wrong about Finn at the moment but pace is not one of them.

Spark · 22-03-2013, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by sphynx

?

Your standards have dropped since Freddy and Harmison.

Pretty much all your quicks bowl low to mid 130's. Finn's the same.

If the pitch isn't helping out, they are pretty pedestrian.

You really haven't seen them bowl much, have you?

GingerFurball · 23-03-2013, 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by sphynx

?

Your standards have dropped since Freddy and Harmison.

Pretty much all your quicks bowl low to mid 130's. Finn's the same.

If the pitch isn't helping out, they are pretty pedestrian.

Jono · 23-03-2013, 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by GIMH

It's bad enough we have to read Burgey's opinions without you feeling the need to ****ing share them as well. Seriously lad, quieten down.

Yeah good from you.

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Originally Posted by Top_Cat

A disagreement between an Egyptian and a Sphynx. Ancient skool.

social · 24-03-2013, 06:26 AM

OK, so Indian tests have finished, we were ****ing awful and a heap of players shouldnt be selected for Australia in the foreseeable future

I know the usual suspects will say the potential replacements are no better - BULL****

Even if we ignore somebody like Chris Rogers (who is, was and forever will be a better player than someone like Cowan even at the age of 35) just how ****ing good do you need to be to average 25 or whatever it is that Watson has average for the last 3 years?

The bottom line is that there are a truckload of players in domestic cricket that could do the same, we wouldnt have to pay them a base salary of $1.5 million per year to do it and if we continue to accept mediocrity (and that is being ****ing generous to Watson's batting) then the team will never improve

Viscount Tom · 24-03-2013, 07:59 AM

Lead-up to '05 was both team playing extremely well winning series against lots of teams, lead-up to this one...hmmm...

Spark · 24-03-2013, 08:12 AM

England had 51ao mere months before 09. Dangerous to predict too far ahead ever in Tests, especially nowadays when form seems to come and go so rapidly.

theegyptian · 24-03-2013, 08:20 AM

England's insipid performance in NZ is awful but the one consolation is that it will dampen expectations somewhat. If we'd won 3-0 (and aus losing 4-0) press and fans alike would have been predicting 5-0 wins which would have been completely unreasonable given Australia are considerably more suited and prepared for a tour to england than india.

Hopefully the press build it up as two average teams coming face to face. Could be like the 2009 ashes. Two average teams come together with not much between them and some pretty poor cricket played.

Tangles · 24-03-2013, 12:04 PM

What's scary is that I can see the selectors starting the first Ashes test with the same 11 that just folded I the 4th India test. Obviously Clarke comes back for Maxwell but Watson and Wade are probably locks for spots. I can see MJ playing if Starc and Bird are not fit. Gonna hope they take Hilf and Harris and drop him though.

Wade needs to be dropped fast. Pick Haddin if none of the other younger guys are better than Wade. Which seems inconceivable.

We really need to do something with Watson. No runs as a pure batsman should mean dropped.

social · 24-03-2013, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Tangles

What's scary is that I can see the selectors starting the first Ashes test with the same 11 that just folded I the 4th India test. Obviously Clarke comes back for Maxwell but Watson and Wade are probably locks for spots. I can see MJ playing if Starc and Bird are not fit. Gonna hope they take Hilf and Harris and drop him though.

Wade needs to be dropped fast. Pick Haddin if none of the other younger guys are better than Wade. Which seems inconceivable.

We really need to do something with Watson. No runs as a pure batsman should mean dropped.

To give you an indication of how ****ed Oz thinking is atm ......

Bird's fc record is distorted because he is a bowler that plays at bowler-friendly Bellerive

Butterworth's fc record is distorted because he is a bowler that plays at bowler-friendly Bellerive

Cosgrove has scored 9000 runs @ 40+ including 800 this year

His home ground - bowler-friendly Bellerive

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Pothas Cricketer Of The Year Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Surbiton, UK Posts: 8,416	There are a fair few things wrong about Finn at the moment but pace is not one of them.

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social International Coach Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: AUSTRALIA Posts: 11,043	OK, so Indian tests have finished, we were **ing awful and a heap of players shouldnt be selected for Australia in the foreseeable future I know the usual suspects will say the potential replacements are no better - BULL Even if we ignore somebody like Chris Rogers (who is, was and forever will be a better player than someone like Cowan even at the age of 35) just how ing good do you need to be to average 25 or whatever it is that Watson has average for the last 3 years? The bottom line is that there are a truckload of players in domestic cricket that could do the same, we wouldnt have to pay them a base salary of $1.5 million per year to do it and if we continue to accept mediocrity (and that is being **ing generous to Watson's batting) then the team will never improve

24-03-2013, 08:12 AM	#942 (permalink)
Spark Global Moderator Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: A Blood Rainbow Posts: 26,729	England had 51ao mere months before 09. Dangerous to predict too far ahead ever in Tests, especially nowadays when form seems to come and go so rapidly.

24-03-2013, 08:20 AM	#943 (permalink)
theegyptian State Vice-Captain Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: UK Posts: 1,022	England's insipid performance in NZ is awful but the one consolation is that it will dampen expectations somewhat. If we'd won 3-0 (and aus losing 4-0) press and fans alike would have been predicting 5-0 wins which would have been completely unreasonable given Australia are considerably more suited and prepared for a tour to england than india. Hopefully the press build it up as two average teams coming face to face. Could be like the 2009 ashes. Two average teams come together with not much between them and some pretty poor cricket played.

24-03-2013, 12:04 PM	#944 (permalink)
Tangles U19 12th Man Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: USA Posts: 226	What's scary is that I can see the selectors starting the first Ashes test with the same 11 that just folded I the 4th India test. Obviously Clarke comes back for Maxwell but Watson and Wade are probably locks for spots. I can see MJ playing if Starc and Bird are not fit. Gonna hope they take Hilf and Harris and drop him though. Wade needs to be dropped fast. Pick Haddin if none of the other younger guys are better than Wade. Which seems inconceivable. We really need to do something with Watson. No runs as a pure batsman should mean dropped.

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