Stupid Ref

[Blaze]

Originally Posted by Buddhmaster

**** that

lol

[Jono]

Originally Posted by Dasa

You're right.
I'll just say idiocy is alive and well, considering the overreactions to something that isn't as clear cut as it seems.
Although, if I was referring to the Australian media (and I wasn't) my point would be true, wouldn't you agree?

Dasa it seems like you've taken issue with Australia getting behind the Socceroos this World Cup, particularly the media, but its no different to any nation really.

And whilst from the point of view of someone who had not watched any of the matches (I know you did though), continous crying and whinging about the referees in this WC would just seem like Australians being bitter and 'idiotic', but in this specific situation they'd be totally justified to be angry. In the first three matches I have no doubt that they were screwed by the refs, and in the third many believe that that penalty shouldn't have stood, and when you consider the diving Italy did all match (Del Piero falling over 10 seconds after he was 'fouled' for eg ) I think its fair enough for everyone to be angry.

The Socceroos' World Cup story, from getting Guus as coach very late in the campaign to qualifying to coming back from behind against Japan and Croatia, making the second round and finally taking it right up to Italy has been a wonderful story, and you can't really blame the media for jumping on board now can you?

[The Foxtrot]

Any one else feel like writing a formal, yet insullting, complaint to FIFA about the competancy/cheating ways of the refs they have for the World Cup?

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[dontcloseyoureyes]

Every WC there's an outcry around the refereeing. It's part of the drama. You'll get over it by next week, but you'll never forget it. Just ask the Englishmen about a certain fat Argy striker.

[FaaipDeOiad]

Originally Posted by Dasa

You're right.
I'll just say idiocy is alive and well, considering the overreactions to something that isn't as clear cut as it seems.
Although, if I was referring to the Australian media (and I wasn't) my point would be true, wouldn't you agree?

That depends. Some of the media has been very jingoistic yes, like that article about why Brazil is a crappy country we should hate. Other parts of the media has just been enthusiastic and catered to people's interest in the Australian side, which is pretty much par for the course.

You might be right about people overreacting, but I think this world cup means a lot to Australian sports fans, and it was certainly one of the most heart-breaking losses you'll ever see given the timing and the controversial nature of the decision and so on, so I don't think it's been that bad really.

[FaaipDeOiad]

Originally Posted by dontcloseyoureyes

Every WC there's an outcry around the refereeing. It's part of the drama. You'll get over it by next week, but you'll never forget it. Just ask the Englishmen about a certain fat Argy striker.

There's normal controversial refereeing and special stuff in my view. The treatment that Spain and Italy got against South Korea in 2002 was special, and the treatment Australia has gotten this WC has been equally bad. You're right though, I'd say people will forget about the odd missed penalty and that sort of stuff, but not a dodgy penalty six seconds from time against one of the world's best sides.

[Dasa]

Originally Posted by Jono

Dasa it seems like you've taken issue with Australia getting behind the Socceroos this World Cup, particularly the media, but its no different to any nation really.

And whilst from the point of view of someone who had not watched any of the matches (I know you did though), continous crying and whinging about the referees in this WC would just seem like Australians being bitter and 'idiotic', but in this specific situation they'd be totally justified to be angry. In the first three matches I have no doubt that they were screwed by the refs, and in the third many believe that that penalty shouldn't have stood, and when you consider the diving Italy did all match (Del Piero falling over 10 seconds after he was 'fouled' for eg ) I think its fair enough for everyone to be angry.

The Socceroos' World Cup story, from getting Guus as coach very late in the campaign to qualifying to coming back from behind against Japan and Croatia, making the second round and finally taking it right up to Italy has been a wonderful story, and you can't really blame the media for jumping on board now can you?

You and FaaipDeOiad are making fair points, however, I disagree with the bolded part above. I think the media should always aspire to be unbiased - there should be no 'we' (as in 'we were robbed' etc.). I know that it's hardly better in most places, but I live in Australia and therefore I have the opportunity to see it most here. I think it's quite fair to condemn the media for fueling some idiotic statements from fans and basically portraying the events in the WC to deify the Australians while denigrating other teams.

[vic_orthdox]

The thing that stings most about the decision, is that there was no "right of reply" as such. With the penalty being so late, it was such a death knell.

[James90]

Australia has played so well all tournament, dominated most games and weren't outclassed by even the best side in the world. The important referring decisions always seemed to go against us often without logic and the saddest thing is looking back at our performance we have 1 win, 2 losses and draw and a goal differential of -1

[marc71178]

Originally Posted by broncoman

****ing ********, fifa can get ****ed, i know they hate australia but this world cup has been ****ed they have cheated us out of a quarter final, we did well to get this far anyway...

Yes, I mean if it weren't for the referee missing the Cahill foul in the first game, you'd have gone home after the first round.

[marc71178]

Originally Posted by FaaipDeOiad

Being frustrated by umpiring errors or cheating or the result of a sporting event or whatever isn't the same as jingoism or nationalism, now is it?

Except the penalty decision was by the letter of the law a correct decision.

[dontcloseyoureyes]

Originally Posted by marc71178

Except the penalty decision was by the letter of the law a correct decision.

Do you ever get sick of yourself? You win, England are better. Get over it.

[Blaze]

Originally Posted by dontcloseyoureyes

Do you ever get sick of yourself? You win, England are better. Get over it.

What annoys me is that I can't put him on my ignore list because it says that he is an administrator...

[benchmark00]

Originally Posted by Blaze

What annoys me is that I can't put him on my ignore list because it says that he is an administrator...

LOL!!