World Cup Ladders - Page 2

Neil Pickup · 09-03-2006, 02:10 AM

The problem here was that I was happy with the top ten, then it all got very "okay, I could put this guy anywhere between 24 and 38" - and I found about 30 who fitted that description. I don't see anyone outside that 50 making my final 40.

Still not pleased with stupid Liam giving me stupid Pakistan.

Matteh · 09-03-2006, 05:10 AM

I was going to put him and Yardy in but forgot in the end....

replaced Knight with Rikki and Hollioake with Yardy....

Richard · 09-03-2006, 07:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matteh

England
1 - Michael Vaughan
2 - Marcus Trescothick
3 - Andrew Flintoff
4 - Paul Collingwood
5 - Kevin Pietersen
6 - Andrew Strauss
7 - Steve Harmison
8 - Mathew Hoggard
9 - Simon Jones
10 - Ashley Giles
11 - Geriant Jones
12 - James Anderson
13 - Ian Bell
14 - Ian Blackwell
15 - Liam Plunkett
16 - Vikram Solanki
17 - Matt Prior
18 - Kabir Ali
19 - Shaun Udal
20 - Darren Gough
21 - Chris Tremlett
22 - Ali Cook
23 - Jon Lewis
24 - Ed Joyce
25 - James Kirtley
26 - Alex Wharf
27 - Alex Loudon
28 - RIkki Clarke
29 - Chris Read
30 - Sajid Mahmood
31 - Usman Afzaal
32 - Ali Brown
33 - Ryan Sidebottom
34 - David Harrison
35 - Ed Smith
36 - Luke Wright
37 - Michael Yardy
38 - Mark Ealham
39 - Simon Cook
40 - James Tredwell

Feel free to have a go if i've made any glaring omissions...

If Luke Wright or James Tredwell get anywhere near the World Cup we could well lose to Zimbabwe or Kenya...
I find it hard to believe Afzaal and Ealham are so far down the list, below rubbish like Mahmood, Plunkett, Harrison, Sidebottom, etc.
I also can't see Hoggard getting anywhere near ODIs again and quite rightly.
That Collingwood, Vaughan and Strauss are so high up says it all, really.

Richard · 09-03-2006, 07:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hazza

Basically, 40 players are chosen and put in order of their place in the international running in the lead-up to the World Cup, and this list is reviewed as new, slightly more obscure, players come into the international scene throughout the build-up.

I simply don't see what the point in picking as many as 40 is... as demonstrated by the fact that the like of Harrison, Wright, Tredwell, etc. are in an England one.
Even 30 would be pushing it - 25 would be a better number.

Mr Mxyzptlk · 09-03-2006, 08:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neil Pickup

Still not pleased with stupid Liam giving me stupid Pakistan.

Liam gave you Sri Lanka though. He gave Harry stupid Pakistan.

Richard · 09-03-2006, 08:47 AM

Why not give Beleg "stupid Pakistan"?
Does it all have to be done by Staff?

Mr Mxyzptlk · 09-03-2006, 08:50 AM

Considering that they're feature articles, yes, they do.

Richard · 09-03-2006, 09:01 AM

Didn't SJS write a feature-article once?
BTW... start that West Indies thread. Soon.

Neil Pickup · 09-03-2006, 09:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Mxyzptlk

Liam gave you Sri Lanka though. He gave Harry stupid Pakistan.

Now even less pleased with stupid Neil not checking the stupid list and doing Harry's job for him...

Richard · 09-03-2006, 09:20 AM

So Stupid Neil now has to do Stupid Sri Lanka having done Stupid Pakistan and made Stupid Harry's Stupid Job Stupidly Easy?

(For clarification - I AM NOT ATTACKING HARRY!!!!!!!!!! )

Mr Mxyzptlk · 09-03-2006, 09:22 AM

Or Stupid Neil could switch with Stupid Harry.

(I am attacking Harry.)

Richard · 09-03-2006, 09:23 AM

Yes, but you can get away with it, you won't get banned for making a pretty-innocent comment that gets blown out of proportion by your own carelessness in not making it clear what you meant!!!!!!

Matteh · 09-03-2006, 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Richard

If Luke Wright or James Tredwell get anywhere near the World Cup we could well lose to Zimbabwe or Kenya...
I find it hard to believe Afzaal and Ealham are so far down the list, below rubbish like Mahmood, Plunkett, Harrison, Sidebottom, etc.
I also can't see Hoggard getting anywhere near ODIs again and quite rightly.
That Collingwood, Vaughan and Strauss are so high up says it all, really.

Most of it was done on last year's OD averages...=/
tbh i thought Ealham was well past it....

Collingwood is a fairly average batter...a fairly average bowler...but his fielding puts him in almost alone

Richard · 09-03-2006, 02:53 PM

No-one can ever be selected for fielding, it's just a side-consideration.
IMO Collingwood is below average in batting and bowling and is extremely lucky to still be in the picture for ODIs.

Matteh · 09-03-2006, 02:56 PM

39 year old Trevor Penney....picked as a subsitute fielder in the Ashes purely for his fielding....(but that's a completely different situation in all fairness)
Arguably though he only got picked for warks. so long because of his fielding....

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09-03-2006, 08:47 AM	#21 (permalink)
Richard Cricket Web Staff Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: 2005 Posts: 80,407	Why not give Beleg "stupid Pakistan"? Does it all have to be done by Staff?

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Mr Mxyzptlk Request Your Custom Title Now! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Trinidad and Tobago (Trinidad) Posts: 36,795	Considering that they're feature articles, yes, they do.

09-03-2006, 09:01 AM	#23 (permalink)
Richard Cricket Web Staff Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: 2005 Posts: 80,407	Didn't SJS write a feature-article once? BTW... start that West Indies thread. Soon.

09-03-2006, 09:20 AM	#25 (permalink)
Richard Cricket Web Staff Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: 2005 Posts: 80,407	So Stupid Neil now has to do Stupid Sri Lanka having done Stupid Pakistan and made Stupid Harry's Stupid Job Stupidly Easy? (For clarification - I AM NOT ATTACKING HARRY!!!!!!!!!! )

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Mr Mxyzptlk Request Your Custom Title Now! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Trinidad and Tobago (Trinidad) Posts: 36,795	Or Stupid Neil could switch with Stupid Harry. (I am attacking Harry.)

09-03-2006, 09:23 AM	#27 (permalink)
Richard Cricket Web Staff Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: 2005 Posts: 80,407	Yes, but you can get away with it, you won't get banned for making a pretty-innocent comment that gets blown out of proportion by your own carelessness in not making it clear what you meant!!!!!!

09-03-2006, 02:56 PM	#30 (permalink)
Matteh Cricket Web: All-Time Legend Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Midlands Posts: 22,938	39 year old Trevor Penney....picked as a subsitute fielder in the Ashes purely for his fielding....(but that's a completely different situation in all fairness) Arguably though he only got picked for warks. so long because of his fielding....

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