Division 4 final round Preview

age_master · 28-09-2003, 04:03 PM

Division 4 i beleive is the most closley contested division in WCC, after 9 rounds there are still 3 teams with a very good chance of taking out the title. Colts, WP and Canterbury.

The Standings with 1 round to go:

Colts - 104
WP - 95
Canterbury - 95
Somerset - 67
Victoria - 61
Auckland - 35

The title race made even more interesting with WP and Colts playing at WP in the final round. Last time these sides met the colts started well scoring 527 in our first innings, WP replied with 425. After this however the game was turned on its head with a brilliant spell of bowling from Nelson taking 6/14 and Lee cleaning up the tail with 4/19, colts 40 all out. WP went on to take the game by 9 wickets. The result of this game is too hard to pick.

Canterbury, after a brilliant start to the season has fallen away. the drop in form including losses to the Colts, WP and Somerset ( i think).

Canterbury play Victoria at home this week and i would say favourites to win. the are 9 points behind the colts. if the win, they will almost certainly get promoted or play a play-off. if they lose however, they must rely on WP also losing to get a place in the play off.

so whos gonna win, and who will not evern attain a playoff spot?

Slats4ever · 29-09-2003, 05:56 AM

My money's on Colts topping the division and Province making the play off. I think Canterbury's form slump will continue and Victoria are still keen as mustard to win as they require it to secure a div 4 spot next year.
I feel that Colts will be so fired up from losing last time to Province, and Province will be sluggish after their play off relegation in one day they will be slow out've the blocks.

nibbs · 29-09-2003, 06:02 AM

IMO, Colts will win comfortably, as will Victoria leaving WP stranded in third place...

marc71178 · 29-09-2003, 12:35 PM

I wonder if Blewy would clarify how we separate 2 teams (or more) that finish level on points in Four Day.

After my 3-way tie finish in the One Day, this one could be just as close!

Rich2001 · 29-09-2003, 02:00 PM

Iam not sure on the method Blewy will use but I guess

- Most Wins
- Matches vs each other

Would be up there as a fair method

Blewy · 29-09-2003, 02:14 PM

Once again Rich is 100% right...

Firstly it will be determined on who has the most wins...
If still level then it will be determined on matches played vs each other...

If still level then least amount of losses...

marc71178 · 29-09-2003, 02:38 PM

And if that's level?

Blewy · 29-09-2003, 02:55 PM

Lets hope and pray that it don't come to that, but it it does then probably be the most bat points or something like that...

Cloete · 29-09-2003, 03:40 PM

I don't think it's the closest in WCC history. Because it's almost exactly the same in Div 2.

Going into the Final round.

Karnataka 105 pts
Lancashire 93 pts
Tamil Nadu 91 pts
Kent 63 pts
Hampshire 47 pts
Western Aus 43 pts

In the last matches:

Karna @ home to WA
Lancs @ home to TN
Hamps @ home to Kent

If Karna lose and one of TN or Lancs win and gain a fair amount of bonus points. Then TN or Lancs will go through. The loser of TN and Lancs won't have any chance of div 1. WHile the winner is assured atleast a play-off. Karna is assured of atleast a play-off as well. So it's anyone in the top three who can get through. On the other side. WA can't be safe, but can hope for a play-off spot if they were to beat Karna. Hamps can get clear if they pick up ALOT of bonus points and beat Kent who have to get minimal points. So every1's in with a shot at something even WA can get a play-off spot instead of automatic relegation.

age_master · 29-09-2003, 05:37 PM

nah, we are closer, top team 9 pts in front and 2nd 2 tied. in yours Karna is a few more in frnt and dontr look like much chance of losing. so lancs will play TN for the promotion playoff.

PS im pretty sure that Colts vs Cant is one each and WP vs Cant is one each.

nibbs · 29-09-2003, 06:05 PM

D3 is very close. Tasmania and Warwickshire are tied for the lead. Sure theres only 2 teams in the with a chance, but its just as close when you consider that they are leading...

marc71178 · 30-09-2003, 03:49 PM

Cloete, Karn beat WA and it's all but over (and it's top v bottom!)

marc71178 · 04-10-2003, 08:07 AM

Well I know the result!

Cloete · 04-10-2003, 03:52 PM

yeah and i lost to lancs by 150 odd runs. crumbled in the last innings. but it's probably better to be in div 2 than 1.

marc71178 · 06-10-2003, 01:02 PM

Well it was a tight one, that's for sure.

WP weren't so happy to find out that if they'd scored 6 more or bowled the opposition out for 4 less they'd have won an extra bonus point and with it the league!

Also, Canterbury picked up a bonus point by just 2 runs!

Couldn't have been much tighter - well played all teams, and thanks for a great season.

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28-09-2003, 04:03 PM	#1 (permalink)
age_master Hall of Fame Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Sydney, NSW, Australia Posts: 15,777	Division 4 final round Preview Division 4 i beleive is the most closley contested division in WCC, after 9 rounds there are still 3 teams with a very good chance of taking out the title. Colts, WP and Canterbury. The Standings with 1 round to go: Colts - 104 WP - 95 Canterbury - 95 Somerset - 67 Victoria - 61 Auckland - 35 The title race made even more interesting with WP and Colts playing at WP in the final round. Last time these sides met the colts started well scoring 527 in our first innings, WP replied with 425. After this however the game was turned on its head with a brilliant spell of bowling from Nelson taking 6/14 and Lee cleaning up the tail with 4/19, colts 40 all out. WP went on to take the game by 9 wickets. The result of this game is too hard to pick. Canterbury, after a brilliant start to the season has fallen away. the drop in form including losses to the Colts, WP and Somerset ( i think). Canterbury play Victoria at home this week and i would say favourites to win. the are 9 points behind the colts. if the win, they will almost certainly get promoted or play a play-off. if they lose however, they must rely on WP also losing to get a place in the play off. so whos gonna win, and who will not evern attain a playoff spot? __________________ Member of CW Green Kerry O'Keefe - Worlds funniest Commentator

29-09-2003, 05:56 AM	#2 (permalink)
Slats4ever International Vice-Captain Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Warwickshire HQ Posts: 4,294	My money's on Colts topping the division and Province making the play off. I think Canterbury's form slump will continue and Victoria are still keen as mustard to win as they require it to secure a div 4 spot next year. I feel that Colts will be so fired up from losing last time to Province, and Province will be sluggish after their play off relegation in one day they will be slow out've the blocks. __________________ WCC - Manager of Warwickshire

29-09-2003, 06:02 AM	#3 (permalink)
nibbs International Captain Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Auckland, New Zealand Posts: 6,873	IMO, Colts will win comfortably, as will Victoria leaving WP stranded in third place... __________________ "Matt Damon"

29-09-2003, 12:35 PM	#4 (permalink)
marc71178 Eyes not spreadsheets Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: England Posts: 56,346	I wonder if Blewy would clarify how we separate 2 teams (or more) that finish level on points in Four Day. After my 3-way tie finish in the One Day, this one could be just as close! __________________ marc71178 - President and founding member of AAAS - we don't only appreciate when he does well, but also when he's not quite so good! Anyone want to join the Society? Beware the evils of Kit-Kats - they're immoral apparently.

29-09-2003, 02:00 PM	#5 (permalink)
Rich2001 Cricket Web Vice Administrator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Kent, UK Posts: 7,181	Iam not sure on the method Blewy will use but I guess - Most Wins - Matches vs each other Would be up there as a fair method

29-09-2003, 02:14 PM	#6 (permalink)
Blewy Cricketer Of The Year Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Your house Posts: 9,964	Once again Rich is 100% right... Firstly it will be determined on who has the most wins... If still level then it will be determined on matches played vs each other... If still level then least amount of losses...

29-09-2003, 02:38 PM	#7 (permalink)
marc71178 Eyes not spreadsheets Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: England Posts: 56,346	And if that's level?

29-09-2003, 02:55 PM	#8 (permalink)
Blewy Cricketer Of The Year Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Your house Posts: 9,964	Lets hope and pray that it don't come to that, but it it does then probably be the most bat points or something like that...

29-09-2003, 03:40 PM	#9 (permalink)
Cloete International Captain Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Suncorp Stadium Posts: 7,004	I don't think it's the closest in WCC history. Because it's almost exactly the same in Div 2. Going into the Final round. Karnataka 105 pts Lancashire 93 pts Tamil Nadu 91 pts Kent 63 pts Hampshire 47 pts Western Aus 43 pts In the last matches: Karna @ home to WA Lancs @ home to TN Hamps @ home to Kent If Karna lose and one of TN or Lancs win and gain a fair amount of bonus points. Then TN or Lancs will go through. The loser of TN and Lancs won't have any chance of div 1. WHile the winner is assured atleast a play-off. Karna is assured of atleast a play-off as well. So it's anyone in the top three who can get through. On the other side. WA can't be safe, but can hope for a play-off spot if they were to beat Karna. Hamps can get clear if they pick up ALOT of bonus points and beat Kent who have to get minimal points. So every1's in with a shot at something even WA can get a play-off spot instead of automatic relegation. __________________ CWXI Regular - Member of CW Black Blacks ftw

29-09-2003, 05:37 PM	#10 (permalink)
age_master Hall of Fame Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Sydney, NSW, Australia Posts: 15,777	nah, we are closer, top team 9 pts in front and 2nd 2 tied. in yours Karna is a few more in frnt and dontr look like much chance of losing. so lancs will play TN for the promotion playoff. PS im pretty sure that Colts vs Cant is one each and WP vs Cant is one each.

29-09-2003, 06:05 PM	#11 (permalink)
nibbs International Captain Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Auckland, New Zealand Posts: 6,873	D3 is very close. Tasmania and Warwickshire are tied for the lead. Sure theres only 2 teams in the with a chance, but its just as close when you consider that they are leading...

30-09-2003, 03:49 PM	#12 (permalink)
marc71178 Eyes not spreadsheets Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: England Posts: 56,346	Cloete, Karn beat WA and it's all but over (and it's top v bottom!)

04-10-2003, 08:07 AM	#13 (permalink)
marc71178 Eyes not spreadsheets Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: England Posts: 56,346	Well I know the result!

04-10-2003, 03:52 PM	#14 (permalink)
Cloete International Captain Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Suncorp Stadium Posts: 7,004	yeah and i lost to lancs by 150 odd runs. crumbled in the last innings. but it's probably better to be in div 2 than 1.

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06-10-2003, 01:02 PM	#15 (permalink)
marc71178 Eyes not spreadsheets Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: England Posts: 56,346	Well it was a tight one, that's for sure. WP weren't so happy to find out that if they'd scored 6 more or bowled the opposition out for 4 less they'd have won an extra bonus point and with it the league! Also, Canterbury picked up a bonus point by just 2 runs! Couldn't have been much tighter - well played all teams, and thanks for a great season.

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