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    Quote Originally Posted by Scaly piscine View Post
    50/50 record including a game against a dramatically weakened Sri Lanka. Given it's NZ they'll only be worse when it comes down to the World Cup, where they've shown plenty of times they can't raise their game while others can - you don't win anything for being slightly above average there.
    While the mighty England will lose to Bangladesh or some random minnow. Though I'm sure we're all about to hear about how Plunkett can bowl and Cook is a fast batsman and numerous other snippets of biased bull****
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flem274* View Post
    While the mighty England will lose to Bangladesh or some random minnow. Though I'm sure we're all about to hear about how Plunkett can bowl and Cook is a fast batsman and numerous other snippets of biased bull****
    How many of his posts have you read? He doesn't want Cook in the Twenty20 team and I'm pretty sure he's unhappy with him playing ODI cricket as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scaly piscine View Post
    I only care about World Cups and Tests, mickey mouse ODIs and Twenty20 series I have a quick look at the scorecard and that's about it.
    You loved mickey mouse ODI's when they gave you evidence (Little evidence but evidence nonetheless) to suggest how great England were because they beat Australia is the CB series and in 2005.

    But of course they were different for some random reason weren't they?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Perm View Post
    How many of his posts have you read? He doesn't want Cook in the Twenty20 team and I'm pretty sure he's unhappy with him playing ODI cricket as well.
    Too many

    Though I admit I havent read the recent England threads that much, but you get the idea (hopefully) I was trying to say.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Flem274* View Post
    You loved mickey mouse ODI's when they gave you evidence (Little evidence but evidence nonetheless) to suggest how great England were because they beat Australia is the CB series and in 2005.

    But of course they were different for some random reason weren't they?
    Aside from the World Cup and Champions Trophy, major tournaments, then the CB series is probably the next most important ODI tournament on the cricket calender.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flem274* View Post
    Too many

    Though I admit I havent read the recent England threads that much, but you get the idea (hopefully) I was trying to say.
    I do, just a poor example you gave. I agree with you though, I thought his anti-NZ bias was shining through in that post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Perm View Post
    Aside from the World Cup and Champions Trophy, major tournaments, then the CB series is probably the next most important ODI tournament on the cricket calender.
    True. Though India/Pakistan and the Chappel-Hadlee may give it a run for its money.

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    Once again against the 'full-strength' Sri Lankan outfit that we lost against, (Malinga didn't play) they batted for 5.5 overs. Completely up to the one man show of Jayasuriya in that match, Murali himself didn't have a massive impact, the batting line up SL fielded against us in the match we won was full strength other than missing Sanath, and the bowling line up had the addition of Malinga, at the expense of Murali.

    Sri Lanka are a great outfit as they proved in the recent World Cup, and in most forms of the game NZ and Sri Lanka come out pretty much with drawn figures. Australia is Australia and looking back at the team we played against them, Jeff Wilson is in it. Great rugby player mind you.
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    England 2 - 4
    India 1 - 0
    New Zealand 2 (3) - 2
    Pakistan 1 - 1
    South Africa 2 - 3
    Sri Lanka 2 - 1
    West Indies 1 - 1 (2)

    Most matches played: England
    Most victories: Australia
    Most losses: England

    Team S/R avg.

    Australia: 9.76
    England: 8.32
    India: 6.40
    New Zealand: 7.34
    Pakistan: 7.32
    South Africa: 7.89
    Sri Lanka: 7.70
    West Indies: 8.38

    Highest Wicket Takers

    AUS: A Symonds: 7 at 13.85
    ENG: Paul Collingwood: 9 at 13.66
    IND: Z Khan: 2 at 7.50
    NZL: J Patel & S Bond 5 at 11.00 and 12.80
    PAK: A Razzaq 3 at 19.33
    RSA: CK Langeveldt 4 at 8.50
    SRL: S Jayasuriya 5 at 10.60
    WI: DR Smith 5 at 14.20


    Odd, don't see anything remarkably better than NZ here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Athlai View Post
    Once again against the 'full-strength' Sri Lankan outfit that we lost against, (Malinga didn't play) they batted for 5.5 overs. Completely up to the one man show of Jayasuriya in that match, Murali himself didn't have a massive impact, the batting line up SL fielded against us in the match we won was full strength other than missing Sanath, and the bowling line up had the addition of Malinga, at the expense of Murali.

    Sri Lanka are a great outfit as they proved in the recent World Cup, and in most forms of the game NZ and Sri Lanka come out pretty much with drawn figures. Australia is Australia and looking back at the team we played against them, Jeff Wilson is in it. Great rugby player mind you.
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    20/20 Int.
    W L
    Australia 3 - 2
    England 2 - 4
    India 1 - 0
    New Zealand 2 (3) - 2
    Pakistan 1 - 1
    South Africa 2 - 3
    Sri Lanka 2 - 1
    West Indies 1 - 1 (2)

    Most matches played: England
    Most victories: Australia
    Most losses: England

    Team S/R avg.

    Australia: 9.76
    England: 8.32
    India: 6.40
    New Zealand: 7.34
    Pakistan: 7.32
    South Africa: 7.89
    Sri Lanka: 7.70
    West Indies: 8.38

    Highest Wicket Takers

    AUS: A Symonds: 7 at 13.85
    ENG: Paul Collingwood: 9 at 13.66
    IND: Z Khan: 2 at 7.50
    NZL: J Patel & S Bond 5 at 11.00 and 12.80
    PAK: A Razzaq 3 at 19.33
    RSA: CK Langeveldt 4 at 8.50
    SRL: S Jayasuriya 5 at 10.60
    WI: DR Smith 5 at 14.20


    Odd, don't see anything remarkably better than NZ here.
    Loving Englands win loss stats.

    Should probably point out i don't have a Hate England streak. Just trying to aggravate SP into a violent rant.

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    I like basically every world class team. In a supporting order I would go, NZ, SL, WI and Bang (Ireland too), and then appreciation of the other teams, all my love goes to the teams stated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Athlai View Post
    Odd, don't see anything remarkably better than NZ here.
    Odd i don't see anything significant good about NZ's Twenty20 performances. Just look like an average Twenty20 side. I don't think any previous Twenty20 performances will have any importance on this WC. No teams have really played any matches to show what they are capable in this format. The most a team has played is six games, India only played one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Perm View Post
    Aside from the World Cup and Champions Trophy, major tournaments, then the CB series is probably the next most important ODI tournament on the cricket calender.
    TBH its just another pointless ODI tournment these days and been that way for a while. Even the fans in Australia are over it and Day One Test Matches tickets these days are seen as the big prize. The last ODI final in Sydney was still on sale till the week before the match. Usually its sold out a month before.

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    If Kenya are to win even one game then a lot will rest on Thomas Odoyo's batting and bowling, however if anybody saw/ followed the Afro-Asia T20 match that preceded the ODI matches (the team had 4 Kenyans in it) though the batting folded rather easily the bowling attack did have the Asia XI under some pressure chasing a meager total up until Shoaib Malik came to the crease especially Nehemiah Odhiambo who picked up 2 wickets for 21 so in that sense all is not lost
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    You loved mickey mouse ODI's when they gave you evidence (Little evidence but evidence nonetheless) to suggest how great England were because they beat Australia is the CB series and in 2005.

    But of course they were different for some random reason weren't they?
    Both teams were up for those tho, they were trying to score points ahead of the Ashes, letting the other team know they were there. The 2nd ODI series with the stupid supersub rules was a different story and by then everyone was just wanting the Ashes to start. The CB series final was important because it was a final against Australia in Australia (they hardly ever lose these) and because it was the last proper outing before the World Cup (against in the case of Australia they didn't care about a 2nd series shortly after with NZ, but NZers amusingly used it to say how great their team was as per usual).

    Anyway this is about NZ not being good enough, I'm sure everyone will try and change the focus onto England but that's not the issue here.
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    Haha oh man. The ODI Series where England tied with Australia, Australia care. The one where they lose 2-1, suddenly no-one cares despite it being just days after the last one. Australia suddenly find their passion again for the CB Series finals and England win. Then, Australia go to New Zealand and find that they reall cbf playing the game and NZ beats them. Yeah, makes perfect sense. People only care about ODIs when England wins.

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