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Which combo would you take?

subshakerz

subshakerz

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Assuming a mid tier side:

A middle order for 3 to 5 of worldclass bats or a worldclass pace bowling opening pair?

A flawless keeper with late 20s, early 30s odd batting average vs an ordinary keeper with mid 40s average?

A reliable 5th bowling pacer taking 1 wicket a test or a no.8 averaging 30 with the bat, a bit padded with NOs?

An elite slip cordon or an elite ground fielding unit, from third man to covers, mid on and mid off.

A steady, highly accurate, very consistent finger spinner with very low ER but high SR or a leggie who is inconsistent and expensive but occasionally can run through a side when conditions are right.

A third pacer who is express pace bowler who is a hot mess, equally dangerous and erratic ball by ball, or a reliable third early 80s MPH seamer who is adaptable and keeps his end tight?
 
ataraxia

ataraxia

International Coach
subshakerz said:
Assuming a mid tier side:

1. A middle order for 3 to 5 of worldclass bats or a worldclass pace bowling opening pair?

2. A flawless keeper with late 20s, early 30s odd batting average vs an ordinary keeper with mid 40s average?

3. A reliable 5th bowling pacer taking 1 wicket a test or a no.8 averaging 30 with the bat, a bit padded with NOs?

4. An elite slip cordon or an elite ground fielding unit, from third man to covers, mid on and mid off.

5. A steady, highly accurate, very consistent finger spinner with very low ER but high SR or a leggie who is inconsistent and expensive but occasionally can run through a side when conditions are right.

6. A third pacer who is express pace bowler who is a hot mess, equally dangerous and erratic ball by ball, or a reliable third early 80s MPH seamer who is adaptable and keeps his end tight?
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My picks bolded. 3, 4, and 5 are very straightforward IMO.
 
DrWolverine

DrWolverine

International Vice-Captain
Assuming a mid tier side:

A middle order for 3 to 5 of worldclass bats or a worldclass pace bowling opening pair?

A flawless keeper with late 20s, early 30s odd batting average vs an ordinary keeper with mid 40s average?

A reliable 5th bowling pacer taking 1 wicket a test or a no.8 averaging 30 with the bat, a bit padded with NOs?

An elite slip cordon or an elite ground fielding unit, from third man to covers, mid on and mid off.

A steady, highly accurate, very consistent finger spinner with very low ER but high SR or a leggie who is inconsistent and expensive but occasionally can run through a side when conditions are right.

A third pacer who is express pace bowler who is a hot mess, equally dangerous and erratic ball by ball, or a reliable third early 80s MPH seamer who is adaptable and keeps his end tight?
 
Coronis

Coronis

Hall of Fame Member
subshakerz said:
Assuming a mid tier side:

A middle order for 3 to 5 of worldclass bats or a worldclass pace bowling opening pair?

A flawless keeper with late 20s, early 30s odd batting average vs an ordinary keeper with mid 40s average?

A reliable 5th bowling pacer taking 1 wicket a test or a no.8 averaging 30 with the bat, a bit padded with NOs?

An elite slip cordon or an elite ground fielding unit, from third man to covers, mid on and mid off.

A steady, highly accurate, very consistent finger spinner with very low ER but high SR or a leggie who is inconsistent and expensive but occasionally can run through a side when conditions are right.

A third pacer who is express pace bowler who is a hot mess, equally dangerous and erratic ball by ball, or a reliable third early 80s MPH seamer who is adaptable and keeps his end tight?
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#4 is what, Vettori vs Yasir?
 
ataraxia

ataraxia

International Coach
Thala_0710 said:
Pant vs Saha, you'd go Pant yeah
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There's also the factor that many mid-tier teams already have a quality WKB (e.g. Jurel), in which case the benefit from playing the ordinary keeper as a specialist batter is much higher than the slight keeping improvement.
 
morgieb

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subshakerz said:
Assuming a mid tier side:

A middle order for 3 to 5 of worldclass bats or a worldclass pace bowling opening pair?

A flawless keeper with late 20s, early 30s odd batting average vs an ordinary keeper with mid 40s average?

A reliable 5th bowling pacer taking 1 wicket a test or a no.8 averaging 30 with the bat, a bit padded with NOs?

An elite slip cordon or an elite ground fielding unit, from third man to covers, mid on and mid off.

A steady, highly accurate, very consistent finger spinner with very low ER but high SR or a leggie who is inconsistent and expensive but occasionally can run through a side when conditions are right.

A third pacer who is express pace bowler who is a hot mess, equally dangerous and erratic ball by ball, or a reliable third early 80s MPH seamer who is adaptable and keeps his end tight?
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1. Depends on the era; in the current era I honestly think the standard of a middling bowler is high enough and pitches spicy enough that the A-grade middle order will give you more benefits. In the 2000's the pace bowling opening pair would be more benefical.
2. Meh keeper who can bat. There's like three keepers throughout history who maintained averages of mid-40's or above. The former would only be beneficial for a side with a lot of great all-rounders or have a world-class Top 6, and they probably wouldn't be mid-tier sides.
3. This would come down to how they are at their primary skill. Assuming similar abilities you'd probably get more out of the #8 unless you generally played on flat decks.
4. In Tests you'd take the slip cordon any day of the week. The latter is generally only significantly beneficial in white ball cricket.
5. Depends on what kind of home wickets you're playing on, on average the finger spinner would be better (I'm assuming they're similar in ability, the way this was written made the finger spinner the easy choice by making him sound the better bowler).
6. Usually the steady bowler. Argument could exist for the more erratic one if you've got a couple of world-class bowlers around him.
 
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