mmm...well India actually havent won all that much in the last 15 years in ODISehwag309 said:England introduced the game to the world, came close 3 times, didn't win it.
After '92, I have never heard England becoming a force in ODI's, it's all always been Aus, Ind, Pak, Lanka, SA
What is it? Their approach, lack of ODI games or they just choke in ODI games
One semifinal and one final appearance in 4 World cups since 92.mmm...well India actually havent won all that much in the last 15 years in ODI
Cmon man, ..atleast more than England. OK, leave India outta the picture, but england has never been a force in ODI's, I was interested in opinionsSwervy said:mmm...well India actually havent won all that much in the last 15 years in ODI
Sharjah (Aus and Zim)orangepitch said:One semifinal and one final appearance in 4 World cups since 92.
One ICC champions trophy victory and another runnrup position in the same.
A natwest victory.
A Hero cup victory.
The Titan cup.
Making it to the finals of the last 10 multination tournaments india has been involved in.
England don't have anything special about them. Australia had a full unit with match savers and match winners. You have seen Srilanka win the world cup with a team with a similar ability, but they had the Jayasuria-Kulawitharana plan which gave them that edge. Pakistan was packed with talent. England doesnt have anything like that.Sehwag309 said:England introduced the game to the world, came close 3 times, didn't win it.
After '92, I have never heard England becoming a force in ODI's, it's all always been Aus, Ind, Pak, Lanka, SA
What is it? Their approach, lack of ODI games or they just choke in ODI games
you mean Aus and Nzl ?sharjah cup ( Aus and Zim )
No, They won 1 sharjah cup v/s Aus, then against zimorangepitch said:you mean Aus and Nzl ?
Waughney said:Isn't this thread supposed to about "When will England win the world cup?"
Lets get back on the subject.
How? ExplainSwervy said:ok..england have just a good a chance of winning in 2007 as any other team apart from Australia
If you play the Natwest evry yr, ure bound to win one eventually.and England won the Natwest last year
Sorry for thinking that making it to the WC final actually meant something.India may have got to the final of the last world cup, but for what???All that did was show that India have along way to go to come anywhere near winning the World Cup and so means jack.
Once again the choker thing comes up...India have a shocking finals record in most tournaments, which would suggest that it is India that are the chokers..
Again, why u pulling India in it? I never compared India/Eng.Swervy said:nobody cares about these ten a penny tournaments...yeah England have won Sharjah..and England won the Natwest last year.
There is one tournament in ODI that is worth anything and that is the world cup..teams have once every 4 years to prove their worth,get it right then,and you are world champs..simple as.
India may have got to the final of the last world cup, but for what???All that did was show that India have along way to go to come anywhere near winning the World Cup and so means jack.
India have a shocking finals record in most tournaments, which would suggest that it is India that are the chokers..England cant get to the finals which suggests that they dont have the talent (although i think if it wasnt for the Zimb fiasco, England could well have got to the semi's)
Sehwag309 said:Again, why u pulling India in it? I never compared India/Eng.
How do you know I am only an indian fan, I could be a fan of England as well.Swervy said:you listed India in the teams that have won stuff since 1992...and you are an Indian fan...so i picked up on India..i could have talked about Pakistan, SA etc.
When it comes down to it, the only countries that have won anything worth talking about are Sri lanka and Australia.
As I say England have just as good a chance of winning the next WC as anyone (apart from Australia who are streets ahead of the following pack)
In general, the way in which teams win World Cups is to win enough games to get them into the later stages, and then to win enough of those games to get into the Final, and then win the Final. This is probably the plan which England will attempt to implement in 2007, especially as it has worked for all the previous World Cup winners.Waughney said:How? Explain