I think them being in the same tier as India and Pakistan is right considering the 21st century decline, and that we’re supposed to take into account maintaining standards.
Yeah they had 20 years or so of dominance but even more than that of decline and that too below even mid-tier at times.
I found this interesting. I don’t think either team was ever a minnow.
I think Pakistan is better than England and WI in ODIs. WI have been a pretty ordinary ODI team the last 30 years.
Cricket was just less interesting once the WIs began to decline.. I can't even argue against these rankings. And the saddest part is by the end of this decade, WI will likely slide even lower in both formats.
I think the Australian team for the first decade that lost around 12 games and won 2 we're almost minnow level. They had two of the World's best bowlers and the best wicketkeeper, but thier batting seems to be weaker than the average County side back then.
Ah yes, England or Pakistan neither won a WC nor were runner-ups; and definitely NZ isn't the team to jointly play the most WC Semi Finals.
It feels like that, but England's ODI record is actually surprisingly decent most of the time. Pak vs WI is a matter of taste I guess, WI got an extra cup so one could end up arguing either way really.
Is it just me, or WC semi should really not even be considered much of an accomplishment? There are 8 decent teams, you have to basically win one 50-50 match to get in the semis.
Depends. 50-50 is pretty good though, definitely not poor. NZ has made the Semis more times than any of those other 7 teams except Australia (jointly). That's a pretty good achievement imo and shows their consistency of being regularly in the top half.
yeah but conversely, losing all but one of these games also shows something, although idk what.
Two. They played two WC Finals. Probably that they are most often among the top half of teams, but rarely the very best. I can think of only the 92 Kisi team as favorites in any WC.
NZ make it to the semis because they don't drop games they shouldn't and then just get outplayed by a better team.
