Weekes v Barrington v Viv Richards (rank in order)

[shortpitched713]

Hesitant on this construction, as I feel it's likely to split the West Indian vote, but this is the best and closest order of middle order batsmen spanning these eras I could think of.

 

[ataraxia]

I feel it's likely to split the West Indian vote

please, you and Coronis (read: no WIers) are the only two posters who will be confused about what to do between Viv and Weekes. At least if you're making polls have it be a close one, ignoring that you think Weekes and Barrington are massively underrated because it means the rest of CW – doesn't.

 

[shortpitched713]

Sobers intersected Weekes, and did play in the same year ( but never together, with Viv ). I think including Sobers in any construction would have been too one sided, as he seems to be one of the 3 consensus BBB picks alongside Tendulkar and Hobbs.

 

[ataraxia]

Well done on picking the opposite of the likely winner (though I suspect with this early lead Weekes may well prevail over Barrington).

 

[shortpitched713]

please, you and Coronis (read: no WIers) are the only two posters who will be confused about what to do between Viv and Weekes. At least if you're making polls have it be a close one, ignoring that you think Weekes and Barrington are massively underrated because it means the rest of CW – doesn't.

Actually I only think Weekes of these 3 is super underrated. Just wanted to see where the Viv / Barrington comparison fits in alongside it, and get a sense for how people rate the different eras as well.

 

[ataraxia]

the Viv / Barrington comparison

What Viv / Barrington comparison? This is not a thing that exists! There is no comparison, it is dead void null zero.

 

[shortpitched713]

please, you and Coronis (read: no WIers) are the only two posters who will be confused about what to do between Viv and Weekes. At least if you're making polls have it be a close one, ignoring that you think Weekes and Barrington are massively underrated because it means the rest of CW – doesn't.

I feel like you got this hostile vibe, and all I did is roll eyes at you one time. Chill ataraxia, let's make peace.

 

[Coronis]

Barrington > Viv > Weekes

 

[Coronis]

please, you and Coronis (read: no WIers) are the only two posters who will be confused about what to do between Viv and Weekes. At least if you're making polls have it be a close one, ignoring that you think Weekes and Barrington are massively underrated because it means the rest of CW – doesn't.

lol. I have never said anything about Richards being inferior or hell even close to Weekes. He is easily top 3 Windies batsman of all time. I don’t even think ranking him 3rd (as I do) is that controversial, as most people would have Sobers/Lara/Viv in their top 10 bats of all time.

Obvs the controversial part comes from the others I rate above Viv.

Also lol @ seeing people rate Weekes > Barrington.

He was both a HTB and a minnow basher.

 

[trundler]

Barrington > Viv > Weekes

Nah

 

[Coronis]

Nah

Yah

 

[BazBall21]

The attack Weekes failed against in Australia was a lot better than the attacks Barrington faced. Most likely tougher pitches too given 50s tax. And Barrington has an average record against good pace at home. I will take Everton due to his strike rate.

 

[OverratedSanity]

Barrington being a dominant force against great attacks and levelling up in tests is partly a myth too. He failed against WI who were arguably the strongest side of the era.

 

[BazBall21]

Barrington being a dominant force against great attacks and levelling up in tests is partly a myth too. He failed against WI who were arguably the strongest side of the era.

Yeah. It's a lazy assumption based on his record against Australia.

 

[Coronis]

Barrington being a dominant force against great attacks and levelling up in tests is partly a myth too. He failed against WI who were arguably the strongest side of the era.

His record is relatively subpar against them I agree.

Some random facts about those tests though:

17 tests played - England won 3 (2 in WI 1 at home) - WI won 4 (all in England) - weird to see splits like these for two teams

Barrington home vs away
14 innings 334 runs @ 23.85, 2 fifties
16 innings 708 runs @ 44.25, 3 tons, 2 fifties

He failed in their home win, in their 2 away wins:
170, 49, 2/34
48, DNB

 

[number11]

This is an insult to Viv and Weekes.

 

[shortpitched713]

This is an insult to Viv and Weekes.

Well, this Barrington fellow did score quite a few runs. And at least 6 people on the forum believe that he was a greater Test batsman than Weekes.

 

[Himannv]

All of them are miles better than Kallis.

 

[Patience and Accuracy+Gut]

This is an insult to Viv and Weekes.

How is it a insult to rank behind someone who averaged near 60 in test cricket and near 70 away from home?

 

[Coronis]

How is it a insult to rank behind someone who averaged near 60 in test cricket and near 70 away from home?

Cos he didn’t have a 60 SR. What a loser