Waugh’s Australia vs Kohli’s India vs Lloyd’s West Indies

[subshakerz]

I think Warne/MacGill would be more successful against Kohli, Rahane etc. than the previous generation of Tendulkar, Laxman, Sehwag.

I can see the Aussie side of 2004/5 with proper planning winning in India against Kohli's side. Enough quality players of spin including Clarke, Martyn, Lehman and Hayden plus the attack of McGrath/Gillespie/Warne and throw in MacGill too.

 

[subshakerz]

A more precise one - Who can score runs against Axar/Jadeja/Ashwin on glorified rank turners where you see the puff of dust from day 2 itself?

Don't see batting greats from Sri Lanka and Pakistan lasting long enough against that type of bowling in those conditions.

With Warne/MacGill such pitches can potentially backfire massively on India. Remember the first test in 2017?

 

[Spark]

With Warne/MacGill such pitches can potentially backfire massively on India. Remember the first test in 2017?

Warne was playing in 2017?

 

[Xix2565]

I mean even then it's not like the current Indian batters are totally **** against spin (apart from a clearly declining Kohli who's still got a decent record and Rahane who's been the worst). Don't think the better spinners alone would make a bigger dent than the overall bowling attack being very good.

 

[Spark]

I mean even then it's not like the current Indian batters are totally **** against spin (apart from a clearly declining Kohli who's still got a decent record and Rahane who's been the worst). Don't think the better spinners alone would make a bigger dent than the overall bowling attack being very good.

None of the current lot are within a shadow of the class of the early 00s Indian top order against spin. Warne would have many of them out mentally before he even started bowling and he wasn't suited to Indian pitches at all.

 

[subshakerz]

Warne was playing in 2017?

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Someone like Steve o Keefe was able to rip through India in both innings. So if India prepare a mamba I can easily see it being a 50/50 contest and India losing home advantage.

I don't buy the idea that Kohli and co will boss Warne and MacGill at home, let alone McGrath and Gillespie with them.

1997 Taylors team loses 3-1 in India.

2001 Waugh's team loses 2-1 in India.

2004 Ponting team wins 2-1 in India.

 

[Daemon]

Current India would fold against Colin Miller ffs

 

[Daemon]

Ashwin would own Warne though, his brain is too big for Warne’s mind games.

 

[Fuller Pilch]

It would be better to compare Kohli's India with Imran's Pakistan, Richie Richardson's WI, Strauss's England, and Kane's NZ.

I'd put all these sides below Smith's SA too.

 

[halba]

Australia here. Gotta go with Australia(all conditions). Lloyds team didn't have a batter of Lara 's calibre(against spin or warne?)

Kohli's team wouldn't win anywhere outside india- not a single game.Warne, Gillespie,McGrath and Damien Fleming/reiffel would destroy them.is this a question? That's one of the best test attacks, 2nd is probably steyn, Philander, Morkel as no spinner.

 

[subshakerz]

Australia here. Gotta go with Australia(all conditions). Lloyds team didn't have a batter of Lara 's calibre(against spin or warne?)

Kohli's team wouldn't win anywhere outside india- not a single game.Warne, Gillespie,McGrath and Damien Fleming/reiffel would destroy them.is this a question? That's one of the best test attacks, 2nd is probably steyn, Philander, Morkel as no spinner.

Outside of extreme dust bowls, Lloyd's side is the strongest side mainly because of the 4 man pace attack. They still managed to win in India/Pakistan easily.

 

[Slifer]

Australia here. Gotta go with Australia(all conditions). Lloyds team didn't have a batter of Lara 's calibre(against spin or warne?)

Kohli's team wouldn't win anywhere outside india- not a single game.Warne, Gillespie,McGrath and Damien Fleming/reiffel would destroy them.is this a question? That's one of the best test attacks, 2nd is probably steyn, Philander, Morkel as no spinner.

Alvin Kallicharan and Lloyd were good vs spin as well.

 

[halba]

Alvin Kallicharan and Lloyd were good vs spin as well.

murali didnt exist then.

 

[subshakerz]

murali didnt exist then.

Yeah but the Indian spin quartet did and in India were a formidable spin test.

 

[Coronis]

murali didnt exist then.

And Lloyd and Kallicharan didn’t exist when Murali played.