Wasim Akram vs Allan Donald

[PlayerComparisons]

Two top 10 quicks that played in the same era

 

[subshakerz]

Wasim. Better rep, better matchwinner away.

 

[OverratedSanity]

Wasim. Better rep, better matchwinner away.

Why does 'rep' matter so much to you? Rep can be, and often is, wrong.

 

[subshakerz]

Why does 'rep' matter so much to you? Rep can be, and often is, wrong.

Record matters more, but I respect how the opposition rated the player they faced as they actually had to deal with him as opposed to us on a keyboard.

If virtually everyone who faced Wasim and Donald felt Wasim was better, I factor that in. Feels wrong to ignore it.

 

[capt_Luffy]

Why does 'rep' matter so much to you? Rep can be, and often is, wrong.

I mean, we haven't seen most players play (I haven't even seen these two play live) and stats can be misleading many times; I think reputation among pundits and contemporaries definitely helps in creating a clearer picture.

 

[Coronis]

Record matters more, but I respect how the opposition rated the player they faced as they actually had to deal with him as opposed to us on a keyboard.

If virtually everyone who faced Wasim and Donald felt Wasim was better, I factor that in. Feels wrong to ignore it.

They also felt Wasim was better than McGrath. They’re biased and wrong.

 

[capt_Luffy]

They also felt Wasim was better than McGrath. They’re biased and wrong.

Sometimes surely, but I think McGrath and Steve Smith are kinda extreme cases. They aren't flashy and when they play you hardly get the impression of their effectiveness without looking at the results. Heck, McGrath was considered kinda a 'sidekick' to Warne for a majority of their careers.....

 

[kyear2]

Rep said Lillee was better than Hadlee, Wasim was better than McGrath. Rep is extremely biased and wrong. And that doesn't even include the conflation between Wasim's test and odi record.

That being said, this is the easiest comp of all of the recent ones. Donald comfortably better than Wasim for me

 

[subshakerz]

They also felt Wasim was better than McGrath. They’re biased and wrong.

Not unanimously, it's still a split. I know quite a few, including Tendulkar and Dravid, who put McGrath ahead.

Donald has no backers as I have seen.

 

[SillyCowCorner1]

Two top 10 quicks that played in the same era

Wasim wasn't really that quick; the other guy (Waqar) was .

 

[subshakerz]

Rep said Lillee was better than Hadlee, Wasim was better than McGrath. Rep is extremely biased and wrong. And that doesn't even include the conflation between Wasim's test and odi record.

That being said, this is the easiest comp of all of the recent ones. Donald comfortably better than Wasim for me

Rep isnt gospel, it is one measure like record that has to be contextualized. In Lillee's case, it is established that coming earlier without competition inflated his rep slightly.

Donald has the worst rep of any ATG top tier tho. It isn't just about timing. He lacked something.

 

[HouHsiaoHsien]

Donald was better at home than Wasim was at his(far better WPM, better SR and average as well). Wasim was better in Aus, Donald far better in Eng and better in WI. Additionally Wasim was magnificent in NZ and very good in SL. Wasim struggled in Ind tho. Donald slightly overall.

 

[subshakerz]

Donald was better at home than Wasim was at his(far better WPM, better SR and average as well). Wasim was better in Aus, Donald far better in Eng and better in WI. Additionally Wasim was magnificent in NZ and very good in SL. Wasim struggled in Ind tho. Donald slightly overall.

Wasim record is affected by him debuting extraordinarily early and doing ok for a teenager in Eng, WI and Ind. I therefore don't think he should be judged by just a surface stats reading.

 

[BazBall21]

I think Donald's debut age is more of an advantage for batsmen and spin bowlers than it is for fast bowlers generally. But Wasim often seems to miss out on leeway for starting as a teenager for some reason.

 

[Coronis]

Wasim record is affected by him debuting extraordinarily early and doing ok for a teenager in Eng, WI and Ind. I therefore don't think he should be judged by just a surface stats reading.

Donald’s record is affected by him debuting at extraordinarily late at 25 and doing poorly as an old man vs an ATG team 10 years later. I therefore don’t think he should be judged by just a surface stats reading.

 

[HouHsiaoHsien]

Wasim record is affected by him debuting extraordinarily early and doing ok for a teenager in Eng, WI and Ind. I therefore don't think he should be judged by just a surface stats reading.

in Eng, he had one good series, but in all other 3 series was far from good. Donald was definitely better in Eng. India granted, he wad good in the 2 match series and decent in the Asia Championship match. So overall decent in Ind. And Wi, he was decent for a teenager in the first series, but bad in the 2nd(this is what makes pulls his record there in the wrong direction), and although good in 3rd, it was against a poor lineup. So decent in WI, but I'd go Donald in WI as well.

 

[shortpitched713]

Going Donald here. Better for both average, and as a strike bowler. Wasim's relative longevity cannot make up for that gap.

 

[shortpitched713]

Record matters more, but I respect how the opposition rated the player they faced as they actually had to deal with him as opposed to us on a keyboard.

If virtually everyone who faced Wasim and Donald felt Wasim was better, I factor that in. Feels wrong to ignore it.

Who explicitly said that Wasim was better than Donald?

 

[Aidan11]

Wasim for me on this one.

 

[Jumno]

Just Donald. Many Donald Vs threads popping up now.

I just wished the umpire raised his finger when Wasim got Langer out in Hobart 99. Would've been a match winning wicket which he did get him out.