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Who would you pick against a high quality attack on a tough pitch?
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Tendulkar vs Lara, who was better against high quality bowling?
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honestbharani
Whatever it takes!!!
Lara > Sachin, daily reminder etc.
subshakerz
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Even though I think Tendulkar is a better bat. In this scenario I would go with Lara as long as it is not fast pacers.
subshakerz
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Lara's 132 on a broken Perth track in 96 against McWarne is pretty much this scenario.
PlayerComparisons
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Who would do better against the WI quartet
HouHsiaoHsien
International Debutant
Express pace, so Sachin
Coronis
Hall of Fame Member
Lara cos he has more exp. Would’ve played against possibly 3 of them in domestic. (debuted 87-88, Garner retired 87/88, Holding retired 90, Marshall retired 95/96)
Then again Tendulkar played 4 ODIs vs Marshall and was never dismissed by him.
subshakerz
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Tendulkar obviously. Lara would be killed.
But anything short of high pace, Lara would be better in this situation.
subshakerz
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Lara struggled against Donald in the 98 series as well in the as Wasim and Waqar in the 97 series. Even Shane Bond got him and Brett Lee had him hopping around at times and trying his luck. With his high backlift and exaggerated movements, he wasn't secure against high pace.
subshakerz
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Shoaib also laid Lara flat. I would fear for Lara's life against the WI quartet.
capt_Luffy
International Coach
So basically, Lara was better vs top tier spin and medium pace (which I don't disagree with btw) but had a genuine weakness to quality high pace, which Sachin didn't. So, like isn't being compact against every kind of high quality bowling better than being excellent against others and having a sort of vulnerability in one?
subshakerz
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
The classic debate. Lara's proponents point to his exceptional skills and dominating performances while Tendulkar proponents like myself prefer his all-round skills and consistency/longevity.
The debate will never be resolved (even though we are right).
subshakerz
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Lara's weakness against high pace was evident everytime he found himself on the backfoot against a rising delivery aimed at his shoulders/head, awkwardly moving in his crease, and then scrunched up in an ugly position as he takes his eye off the ball since he struggled to duck because of his high back lift. The same thing happened to him time and again against Donald, Shoaib, Lee, Bond, etc. across his career. Even if he managed a cut or a pull, he was clearly riding his luck a bit.
Of course, all these exaggerated movements were his strengths against spin and medium pace allowing him a variety of shots.
Tendulkar on the other hand simply had a better technique, and maybe a better eye. Rarely seen rushed and almost always seemed balanced unlike Lara.
Of course, all these exaggerated movements were his strengths against spin and medium pace allowing him a variety of shots.
Tendulkar on the other hand simply had a better technique, and maybe a better eye. Rarely seen rushed and almost always seemed balanced unlike Lara.
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Slifer
International Captain
I'll be blunt, I don't rate either player vs express pace. Lara because quite frankly he got owned by it, and Sachin because imo, he never really had a great/impactful series vs high quality pace even if he looked more comfortable.
Contrast that with someone like S Waugh who dominated WI away in '95 or Border who had an atg series in '84 (I believe) vs a pace attack from hell.
In the above I'd give Sachin the edge because he at least managed 100s vs all the great bowlers he faced even if he didn't make runs overall. Both were mediocre vs WWs, and Donald, Lara has the edge vs McWarne. Against medium pace edge Lara, Spin by razors edge Lara, pace Sachin. So overall, Sachin by the thinnest of margins.
Fwiw, all of Lara's travails vs pace is limited to outside the WI, in the WI he'd do well vs any pace bowler.
Contrast that with someone like S Waugh who dominated WI away in '95 or Border who had an atg series in '84 (I believe) vs a pace attack from hell.
In the above I'd give Sachin the edge because he at least managed 100s vs all the great bowlers he faced even if he didn't make runs overall. Both were mediocre vs WWs, and Donald, Lara has the edge vs McWarne. Against medium pace edge Lara, Spin by razors edge Lara, pace Sachin. So overall, Sachin by the thinnest of margins.
Fwiw, all of Lara's travails vs pace is limited to outside the WI, in the WI he'd do well vs any pace bowler.
subshakerz
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
I agree for the most part.
I actually think Tendulkar did slightly better against Warne and Lara of course against Murali.
Slifer
International Captain
Well yeah but I meant McWarne. Different kettle of fish.
honestbharani
Whatever it takes!!!
I do rate Lara and Ambrose as the best batsman and bowler I have seen in my time of following and watching cricket.Subzi a biased Indian just like @honestbharani a biased West Indian.
And AntiguanI do rate Lara and Ambrose as the best batsman and bowler I have seen in my time of following and watching cricket.