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Strongest NZ WC team
- Thread starter Sunil1z
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Sunil1z
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2023 and 2019 have nearly same core group with 2023 being better side imo
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I'd possibly even argue our 1999 team was better than 2007, although I concede that Bond was a pretty big factor in the latter. But the likes of Cairns, Twose and Allott were so gun in '99.
Prince EWS
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Do you mind if I change the option to 2019/2023 if you consider them basically the same thing?
Sunil1z
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Yes change the options
Fuller Pilch
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No, it isn't. The 2003 team which missed the semis (didn't go to Kenya) was stronger than 99.
The Hutt Rec
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2019 and 2023 are quite different - Conway, Ravindra, Young, Mitchell, Phillips, Chapman ... over half the current team has changed, will change to 5/11 when/if Williamson returns.
The Hutt Rec
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On paper, but not on results, I'd say. Even if they'd gone to Kenya, they didn't nail the crunch moments in pool play like 1999 did.
Admittedly 1999 got obliterated in the semi, but based on pool games 2003 would have as well.
Fuller Pilch
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Agree, it is just Latham and 4 main bowlers the same and even the bowling balance has changed:
Boult, Henry, Ferguson, Santner
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CDG and Neesham 2019/Ravindra and Phillips & perhaps Mitchell 2023
The Hutt Rec
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I still miss CDG, feels like this tournament should have been his swansong. 
mr_mister
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Are we factoring in how well Twose and Allott played in '99?
Fuller Pilch
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Also have to factor in a weak top 4 of Astle (really struggled in World Cups), Horne, Fleming, and McMillan.
mr_mister
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Weren't 3/4 still the core of their batting in 2003 anyway though?
TheJediBrah
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2003
If the 2003 team were playing today they'd be the best side. 2003 was the peak of ODI cricket standards around the world
If the 2003 team were playing today they'd be the best side. 2003 was the peak of ODI cricket standards around the world
Sunil1z
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They lost to IND, SL and AUS . This is why I didn’t consider them .
TheJediBrah
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Those 3 teams would beat any NZ team in history. They were just 3 really strong teams
Fuller Pilch
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No, 2015/2019/2023 are all far far better batting lineups than 2003.
Astle was by far the best ODI batter in our 2003 side, followed by Styris and Fleming.
None were as half as good as Taylor and Williamson and were behind Guptill, Conway, and Mitchell too.
TheJediBrah
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2003 team was still better
They managed to compete with ATG-level teams despite not having superstars on paper
They managed to compete with ATG-level teams despite not having superstars on paper