Smith vs Lara vs Viv - Who has had the best god mode?

[kyear2]

More than Viv did, which is the point, and that's not including McWarne.


Ok sure. Wasim was still very good though in that series.


I like how when convenient you decide Ambrose isn't worldclass after his shoulder injury. Walsh was at his peak btw.


Yes so Tendulkar did face an ATG attack then.


Whatever these arent points related to the argument we are having.

Again, which ATG combos

Wasim and Waqar outside of prime

Donald and Pollock, what, 5 games?

Ambrose and Walsh, but no Ambrose pre injury.


And who's saying he wasn't world class, but he also wasn't what he was before, what were your words, less penetrative?

So basically it was McWarne.

So again, I'd were talking performances vs the ATGs, Viv's number are better, and Tendulkar undoubtedly struggled in comparison. And the great combos that he were up against are at least a little overplayed.

And for all who are down playing what Viv was up against, was there ever anything more difficult than facing the gauntlet of Imran and co in Pakistan, the NZ tours vs Hadlee and Lillee and Thompson in Australia in the 70's and 80's?

Multiple WI players I've spoken to from the era independently spoke of how Lillee was allowed to practically bowl from (hyperbole) half way down the pitch and they were out for blood. Imran averaging 13 with the aid of his friends mid decade and Hadlee in NZ... And that doesn't mention peak Botham in England.

 

[subshakerz]

Again, which ATG combos

Wasim and Waqar outside of prime

Donald and Pollock, what, 5 games?

Ambrose and Walsh, but no Ambrose pre injury.


And who's saying he wasn't world class, but he also wasn't what he was before, what were your words, less penetrative?

So basically it was McWarne.

So again, I'd were talking performances vs the ATGs, Viv's number are better, and Tendulkar undoubtedly struggled in comparison. And the great combos that he were up against are at least a little overplayed.

And for all who are down playing what Viv was up against, was there ever anything more difficult than facing the gauntlet of Imran and co in Pakistan, the NZ tours vs Hadlee and Lillee and Thompson in Australia in the 70's and 80's?

Multiple WI players I've spoken to from the era independently spoke of how Lillee was allowed to practically bowl from (hyperbole) half way down the pitch and they were out for blood. Imran averaging 13 with the aid of his friends mid decade and Hadlee in NZ... And that doesn't mention peak Botham in England.

Dude why do you get so hyper defensive with WI cricketers?

You know I am a Viv fan.

But yeah, McWarne, Donald Pollock and lesser Ambrose Walsh and out of prime 2Ws are more than Viv faced as allround ATG attacks. But Viv still excellent and better against pacers one to one.

 

[subshakerz]

And at the end of the day, they averaged the same against the team, and Donald got him out his fair share of times, as did Pollock.

Don't change goalposts. We aren't talking about teams or medium pacers like Pollock on Lara vs Tendulkar.

Specific to Donald, Tendulkar did better against him at his peak in the 90s.

The frustrating thing is you know and admit that Lara wasn't as sound vs these top pacers but want to disagree for its own sake.