Sachin. Sobers. Smith.

[Sliferxxxx]

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Lol yeah I'll edit that right away.

 

[Sliferxxxx]

Smith has atg series (17 bgt) vs two atvg spinners he faced(ash and jadeja) but became ashwin`s bunny in 20/21 and 23 bgt

Smith also has great series (2014) vs Steyn, Morkel and Philander where he averaged 67.

 

[subshakerz]

Oh you want great series vs great pace: 1960 at home vs Trueman and Statham.

Unfortunately I looked into that. All his runs in high scoring batting draws in that series.

 

[Sliferxxxx]

As for this thread both sir gary and sachin are retired. We can discuss about them but smith is still playing. We are unsure how he will end up either he is gonna have atg series vs bumrah in 27 or rabada in 26 or will decline bad is unknown. Plz let us keep him out till he retires

I'm anxious see how he does vs us (the WI) this year assuming Seales, Shamar, Roach and any of Worrican/Motie are available and play. Should he do well, that'll be a nice feather in his cap.

 

[Sliferxxxx]

Unfortunately I looked into that. All his runs in high scoring batting draws in that series.

So? He still made runs. Aren't you the one always preaching that Smith made runs on roads at home. And fwiw, high scoring or not, he made runs without any helmets vs head hunters and with toothpicks for bats.

 

[govinda indian fan]

I'm anxious see how he does vs us (the WI) this year assuming Seales, Shamar, Roach and any of Worrican/Motie are available and play. Should he do well, that'll be a nice feather in his cap.

Yes waiting to see how he does vs your team. Wi have third best attack after aus and sa

 

[subshakerz]

So? He still made runs. Aren't you the one always preaching that Smith made runs on roads at home.

Preaching against that you mean. But sure those runs still count, similar to Gavsaskar vs Quarter in 83.

 

[Sliferxxxx]

Unfortunately I looked into that. All his runs in high scoring batting draws in that series.

Scorecard - 1960-1961 Australia v West Indies - 3rd Test - 13/01/1961 - Sydney Cricket Ground, Sydney - Test No. #502

Test Cricket - Scorecard: 1960-1961 Australia v West Indies (Frank Worrell Trophy) - 3rd Test - 13th January, 1961 - Sydney Cricket Ground

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Here you go a hundred in a low scoring match vs Benaud and Alan Davidson.

Scorecard - 1959-1960 West Indies v England - 3rd Test - 17/02/1960 - Sabina Park, Kingston, Jamaica - Test No. #489

Test Cricket - Scorecard: 1959-1960 West Indies v England - 3rd Test - 17th February, 1960 - Sabina Park

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Another hundred in a low scoring match vs Truman and Statham.

 

[Sliferxxxx]

Preaching against that you mean. But sure those runs still count, similar to Gavsaskar vs Quarter in 83.

Gavaskar? Huh? Who mentioned Gavaskar? .

 

[Sliferxxxx]

Yes waiting to see how he does vs your team. Wi have third best attack after aus and sa

Umm I wouldn't go that far. We're very good at home but suck away. India has a very good attack still away and are still great at home imo. NZ have a pretty good attack as well, assuming Jamieson overcomes his issues.

 

[Johan]

Unfortunately I looked into that. All his runs in high scoring batting draws in that series.

they'd probably lose 0-3 or 0-4 without Sobers, both sides had elite batting and only England had elite bowling, by all right it should've been a lopsided english win. Doesn't really matter as Sachin made majority of his runs in losses or draws anyway.

 

[Sliferxxxx]

Fwiw, I'm not necessarily advocating for Sobers over either of Smith or Sachin but he does have certain things in his favor, as do both Sachin and Smith.

 

[ma1978]

. Sobers' first series vs Australia in 1956 when he was 18, was vs Lindwall, Miller, Bill Johnston, Benaud and Ian Johnson. He averaged 39 in that series btw, not great, but commendable for a teenager seeing as CW seem to rate teenagers highly that perform well in a test series. Then the series vs England in 57 it was Trueman, Statham, Lock and Laker. Oh you want great series vs great pace: 1960 at home vs Trueman and Statham.

I thought the word ATG was used. Other than Truman it’s the definition of solidly above average

 

[subshakerz]

they'd probably lose 0-3 or 0-4 without Sobers, both sides had elite batting and only England had elite bowling, by all right it should've been a lopsided english win. Doesn't really matter as Sachin made majority of his runs in losses or draws anyway.

You were the one telling me that was a flat track series Trueman did well in. Anyways Sobers still deserves credit.

 

[Johan]

You were the one telling me that was a flat track series Trueman did well in. Anyways Sobers still deserves credit.

majority of Windies wickets were flat until a certain Michael Holding came in, tho, it's not like Indian wickets were uber productive to pace either, Viv probably had the hardest home wickets among your modern BAB contenders.

 

[Sliferxxxx]

I thought the word ATG was used. Other than Truman it’s the definition of solidly above average

Sooo you don't think Lindwall was atg?. And more and attack of Lindwall, Miller, Johnston, and Benaud being atg?? Smh...

 

[Johan]

Sooo you don't think Lindwall was atg?. And more and attack of Lindwall, Miller, Johnston, and Benaud being atg?? Smh...

neither Sachin or Smith are averaging more than 35 against that attack btw

 

[Sliferxxxx]

neither Sachin or Smith are averaging more than 35 against that attack btw

Imo, probably not. Neither are Lara and handful of other atg batsmen.

 

[Prince EWS]

Vaughan. Virat. Amla.

 

[Coronis]

Vaughan. Virat. Amla.

Who is whom?